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Enfield No. 4 vs Mosin-Nagant M44
knightrider
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OK here comes a reduntant question. Which should I focus on getting next, the Enfield 4 or the Mosin-Nagant M44? Here are the pros and cons that I can come up with for both.
Enfield 4
Pros:
Price is good for rifle
Well built
10 rounds in the mag
Not overly heavy rifle
Recoil is lighter than the Mosin-Nagant
The safety is easy
Easy cheap regular scope mount and the iron sights can still be used.
cons:
Ammo is getting harder and harder to find and for a good price.
Harder to find one that is in good shape other than gun shows and J&G.
Mosin-Nagant
Pros:
Well built (hey if it is still being used as a sniper rife it has to be good, doesn't it?)
Price is better than Enfield
Ammo is cheap and available
They are easy found on many sites.
Lighter than the Enfield, but.....
Cons:
RECOIL!(Being lighter does not mean better with a rifle of this type.)
Safety is hard to use.
The 1891/59 version is out due to the barrel being heaver than rest of the rifle and it wants to fall forward.
Long eye relief sight must be used if a scope is mounted and iron sights are not usable in that form.
It is expensive for a scope to be mounted and iron sights still usable.
There is the list, what is your option?
Enfield 4
Pros:
Price is good for rifle
Well built
10 rounds in the mag
Not overly heavy rifle
Recoil is lighter than the Mosin-Nagant
The safety is easy
Easy cheap regular scope mount and the iron sights can still be used.
cons:
Ammo is getting harder and harder to find and for a good price.
Harder to find one that is in good shape other than gun shows and J&G.
Mosin-Nagant
Pros:
Well built (hey if it is still being used as a sniper rife it has to be good, doesn't it?)
Price is better than Enfield
Ammo is cheap and available
They are easy found on many sites.
Lighter than the Enfield, but.....
Cons:
RECOIL!(Being lighter does not mean better with a rifle of this type.)
Safety is hard to use.
The 1891/59 version is out due to the barrel being heaver than rest of the rifle and it wants to fall forward.
Long eye relief sight must be used if a scope is mounted and iron sights are not usable in that form.
It is expensive for a scope to be mounted and iron sights still usable.
There is the list, what is your option?
Comments
The 91/59 has a heavier barrel than the M44, true, but I don't find that it tips forward. What then would a 91/30 long rifle do? M38 is also an option.
I bought a few Enfields in 303 - could never really keep straight what ammo was corrosive, what was not. Compared to 308 it's a pain tracking down 303 ammo anyway. I didn't want to reload 303 because of short case life.
I have a clean & new looking Ishapore and whenever I get the need for "3" groups @ 100 yds is OK" military style shooting its my favorite.
But back to your original question.
I've had both. Absolutely love the Enfield, consider the Mosin a POS, for one reason and one reason only.
Enfield: One of the fastest, nicest bolts on a military rifle.
Mosin: Piss poor, stiffer than heck, design to get around a patent.
On a side none, my 44 didn't kick all that hard to me.
I personally would rather have an Enfield with no availible ammo hanging on the wall, than have a mosin, but that's juat me, some folks LOVE them.
Ben
The Mosin has some dedicated followers...I bit on one for $50 that was in good shape. It reminded me of the toy guns we had as a kid (when they were still made of wood and steel -- no plastic, and yeah I'm getting old) Before getting one I considered it a POC.
Now I have a couple (how'd that happen?)...it is really unbelievable how well these P'sOC shoot..so I'll have to quit with my POC talk.
Get the Enfield, nice gun and history. I'm gonna think about it too.
Get the Mosin, for $65 (a tank of gas) it's hard to go wrong.
ENJOY !
I no longer have an enfield...as per my site-name.
The Mosin has some dedicated followers...I bit on one for $50 that was in good shape. It reminded me of the toy guns we had as a kid (when they were still made of wood and steel -- no plastic, and yeah I'm getting old) Before getting one I considered it a POC.
Now I have a couple (how'd that happen?)...it is really unbelievable how well these P'sOC shoot..so I'll have to quit with my POC talk.
Get the Enfield, nice gun and history. I'm gonna think about it too.
Get the Mosin, for $65 (a tank of gas) it's hard to go wrong.
ENJOY !
Can't really argue with that, good advise![8D]
Ben
The Soviet M44 isn't as smooth an action, and the sights are harder for me to see, but it's very accurate...yeah, it kicks more than the SMLE, but so what, its WWAAYYY cheaper to shoot
M44, best buy IMHO