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M1 scope and mount

Maxx424Maxx424 Member Posts: 719 ✭✭✭✭
edited May 2007 in Ask the Experts
Thinking of mounting a scope on my M1 to help my old eyes. Target shooting only. I see a few options where the mount attaches to the rear sight. Any one better than the other and what would be a good scope to use.

Thanks

Cary

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  • Maxx424Maxx424 Member Posts: 719 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I guess this was a bust.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mounting a scope on an M1 doesn't really work well. There have been several military versions (M1C, M1D), but they required armory level modifications. There have also been several commercial mounts, but they either required holes or clamps that damaged the finish of the rifle; &, they still didn't work that well. (Also, removal of the rear sight requires special tools/knowledge, or you will ruin it.)

    Check the auctions, & you might find an older commercial mount. But, keep your expectations low.

    Neal
  • Maxx424Maxx424 Member Posts: 719 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That is what I was afraid of. Guess I will skip the idea. Thanks for the feedback.
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maxx424,

    Welcome to the GB forums!

    I know it seems like you're being ignored sometimes but not all of us can be on tap all of the time to answer questions. Eventually, one of the Experts will post or e-mail you with information or leads to getting that information from another source.

    I have never been real fond of any of the scope mounting fixtures for the M1. I suggest that you consider getting another rifle such as a bolt action to use for scope mounted target shooting. Your accuracy and performance should be better anyway. Besides, you can always use another rifle.

    Best.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maxx424:

    I no longer have my Garand scoped, but when I did, actually worked quite well. I had to use a scope with simple cross hairs as it is rotated 90? to keep the windage adjustment clear of an ejecting clip.
    The mount is extremely rigid, and is supported using a socket heat bolt through the existing sight mount tangs for the rear sight. Switching between the scope and the originally peep sight is simple and takes less than 10 minutes. I used to switch back and forth quite a bit.

    I bought the sight mount here on Gunbroker some 6 years ago or so, and will look this weekend to see if I still have any information about it.

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    Brad Steele
  • Maxx424Maxx424 Member Posts: 719 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wow - Thanks for the info about the mount and the scope. Appreciate the help here.

    Cary
  • catpealer111catpealer111 Member Posts: 10,695
    edited November -1
    The best mount to use is the one that replaces the rear sight that Fulton armory offers, and from the looks of it, it's the same one that Non McManus has in his pic. I have used both the above mentioned and the B-Square mount. The Fulton Armory one mounts up better, allows you to use a wider array of scopes, and has a built in rear peep sight so you retain the opens as a back-up.
  • Maxx424Maxx424 Member Posts: 719 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks - I'll check it out at Fulton. Appreciate the help.

    Cary
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    catpealer111 called it.

    The 'Scope Mount with Weaver Base' at Fulton Armory ($ 99.95)
    is either the one I've shown in the picture, or is at least
    almost identical.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, but..........notice how much higher the scope is than the original rear sight. It's even higher than the M1C/M1D scopes, which required a lace-on leather cheek piece. So, even with a cheek piece, you may have to crane your neck like a giraffe.

    It can be done, but, like I said, it doesn't work well.

    Neal
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    nmyers:
    quote:Originally posted by nmyers
    OK, but..........notice how much higher the scope is than the original rear sight. It's even higher than the M1C/M1D scopes, which required a lace-on leather cheek piece. So, even with a cheek piece, you may have to crane your neck like a giraffe.

    It can be done, but, like I said, it doesn't work well.

    Neal

    You are correct, except for the case (like mine) where the shooter is right handed and left-eye dominant. The arrangement makes for the most comfortable and natural shooting position of any rifle I own, as I can rest my cheek directly on the stock and use my dominant eye in the scope. Not readily apparent in the photo is the 1-1/2" (appx.) offset to the left to allow for the ejected enbloc clip to clear. The height and left offset happen to work out perfectly for the use of the left eye through the scope.

    I would agree with you that if a shooter had difficult using his left eye the arrangement would be very awkward.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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