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Remington Model 12 in creosote

325325 Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
edited May 2007 in Ask the Experts
I have recently started the hobby of restoring older 22 pump rifles. My goal is funtioning good looking rifles not high doller collectables. My problem, if I have one. I have aquired for a modest price a Model 12 upper reciever barrel and magazine tube, that I believe has never been mounted and is still in creosote. I do not have a matching serial # lower trigger housing. Is this item of great value ,that I am a fool to mount as a home project,or should I count myself lucky and continue on?
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Creosote[?] Are you sure about that? To the best of my knowledge, creosote was never used on firearms... do you actually mean cosmoline? Creosote was used to treat railroad ties, telephone poles, bridge timbers, etc., but never firearms.

    As for the value question, it is not an overly valuable item to anyone, and is only of interest to someone who needs it to restore/rebuild an old Remington that is in bad shape.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Remington Model 12 is a desirable rifle especially if it's in nice condition. I take it that you need a trigger housing assembly
    and stocks+ hardware to complete it.
    Trigger housings come up on ebay regularly as do the other parts.Some are in V.G. condition.
    Repro stocks are also obtainable.
    A mismatched trigger housing s/n is only visible when the gun is dismounted.
    I would put the gun together.
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  • Old FoolOld Fool Member Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Go here, they have most of the parts fot the Model 12:

    http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=0860z12

    Good luck
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If it is "Creosote" not "Cosmoline" that it's covered with, be da**ed careful removing it! Where I use to live, there was a relatively new government office building that used Creosote covered wood as exterior decoration. When it became known that Creosote was a dangerous Carcinogen they closed and condemned the whole building. I'm talking about a multi-story building that cost millions of dollars.
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  • 325325 Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    You are right when you say cosmoline ,not creosote, da on my part. Have started cleaning the rifle and now a new question. It appears to be of the silver finish overall. I have heard of gallery rifles and even remember shooting a few at the county fairs in my youth, during the time when we all had a level of trust for one another and everyone had a rifle in the pickup out back. This is the finish and not the way it was shipped to be blued later. Isn't it?
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When you say silver finish, do you mean nickel plate, polished steel or is the blued finish worn off?
    Is the bolt with it and how's the bore?
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  • 325325 Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is not blued. I don't believe it is nickel as I think that would be a gray color. As for stainless or steel I am unsure but believe polished stainless. The magazine tube that is with it is the same. I don't think that this was ever mounted on a reciever or fired. There isn't a ding or handeling mark on it that I can see. I have only cleaned the top of the reciever and mag. rube with a soft rag and Rem Oil. I am 99% sure that the brown sticky film that is covering it is cosmoline.
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  • duckhunterduckhunter Member Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Never stainless in that old of a gun. I would think the condition would be "in the white: meaning nuver finished.
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  • 325325 Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    In white may very well be correct. I don't know why it would be cosmolined and not finished out. It gleams like polished and dulls to white dependent on the angle of light. Any way I have gathered pieces and have three model 12's in stages of rebuilding. It isn't like putting a car together, some pieces fit together better then others and the ultimate goal is the best and smoothest working rifle I can achive. It is a learning process. One thing I have learned. If you are forcing something STOP. You are doing something WRONG and are about to do DAMAGE. I will say however that "Wheeler Cold Blue" is as good of stuff as claimed for a basement project. I used 5 coats and brought a barrel very close to the condition of a blued reciever that I have. As for the original reciever that was the topic of this posting I think for now I will save it to the side until I come across some very good pieces to finish it out. It is much to nice to use in the learning process. I do have a very badly abused model 12 Rem. Spc. Barrel that came with the parts I wanted. I mean badly abused as in cut off and dovetails mared. If some one wants it and will pay postage it's yours.
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