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1851 COLT matched Pair

perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
edited January 2007 in Ask the Experts
Hey GUYS look on the picture that has the GOOD close up on the Cylinder with the PAT No. does it seem strange to you that the Pat number is the same as the last 4 digits of the serial number of each gun and the pat No. is also different by one number on each pistol.For laura 2003 Thanks for the pictures I live on east coast and did not stay up that late. Made my morning [:p][:p][:p]. Old guys don't get excited that often first thing in the morning... I must commend you on the pictures they are not as good as some that BERT H post but for a NEWBE very good indead. IMHO I would not sell to anyone and if I did sell IT would ONLY be at auction never at an outright sale a matched pair does not come up for sale often enough to set a price and at a big sale there might be a feeding frenzyPlease come back to this forum do let us know if you put them up for sale.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe the numbers on the cylinders should correspond to the revolvers' s/ns not patent number.
    In the excitement over seeing consecutive Navies I believe the finish was overstated and is more like 30% judging from the photos.
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  • Laura2003Laura2003 Member Posts: 60 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm going to see if I can take a few pictures with better quality, then post them.
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  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    perry shooter, I agree with v35 that the last 4 digits of the serial numbers should appear on the cylinder and also on the cylinder pin. I could be wrong. It's been years since I've studied old Colts, and you know how the memory is sometimes. [:)]

    I don't think I'd sell them either. Just imagine the frontiersmen who carried them, and the stories they could tell if they could only speak. Folks like Jesse James, who carried up to six revolvers at times, at the same time, when he rode with Captain Quantrill's Raiders, one or more of them mighht have been 1851 Colts.
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  • Laura2003Laura2003 Member Posts: 60 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Consecutive 1851 Navy Colts.

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  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nice! Much better pictures, Laura. I'd say that with these pics the amount of finish remaining is between 70 and 80 percent, with much of it being somewhat bright. What say guys...is that about right? It appears the brass of one is considerably brighter than the other. If that's the case then someone has removed the patina.

    Thanks for the pics Laura, you really have a treasure there. Do you know much about their history?
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Serial 1407 is in a bit better condition, and I would grade it as 60%. Serial 1408 is in the 40-50% range. Overall, they are an impressive pair of original Colt Navies. The fact that the cyliner scene is still visible on both is a major plus.

    Laura, I am by no means an expert on Colt firearms, but I do know how to recognize what is real and what is not, and how to grade and evaluate antique firearms (most especially Winchesters). I very strongly agree that you need to have these Colts and your Henrys appraised. If you are considering selling them, this website is not the place to do it (contact me for recommendations if you need them). Between the Colts and Henrys, you are in possession of some very valuable antiques!

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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  • Laura2003Laura2003 Member Posts: 60 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have considered selling these guns. I thought I would post a few pictures and see what the response would be. Of course that would depend on what the offers would be. Just curious, because I certainly don't have a problem keeping these beauties. Thanks for you help.
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  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bert, I think one of the most, if not the most respected name in antique firearms and their appraisals, from what I can gather, is Greg Martin. He can be reached through his website http://www.gregmartinauctions.com/gma/index.asp
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    Bert, I think one of the most, if not the most respected name in antique firearms and their appraisals, from what I can gather, is Greg Martin. He can be reached through his website http://www.gregmartinauctions.com/gma/index.aspby


    I know Greg Martin (and several of his employees) quite well... I routinely see them at the Big Reno shows. That said, there are other people that I prefer to deal with on the non Winchester firearms.

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  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    Bert, I think one of the most, if not the most respected name in antique firearms and their appraisals, from what I can gather, is Greg Martin. He can be reached through his website http://www.gregmartinauctions.com/gma/index.aspby


    I know Greg Martin (and several of his employees) quite well... I routinely see them at the Big Reno shows. That said, there are other people that I prefer to deal with on the non Winchester firearms.


    Thank you for the info. I may be asking you for advice on this someday! Thank you.
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    Bert, I think one of the most, if not the most respected name in antique firearms and their appraisals, from what I can gather, is Greg Martin. He can be reached through his website http://www.gregmartinauctions.com/gma/index.aspby


    I know Greg Martin (and several of his employees) quite well... I routinely see them at the Big Reno shows. That said, there are other people that I prefer to deal with on the non Winchester firearms.


    Thank you for the info. I may be asking you for advice on this someday! Thank you.


    Whenever you are ready...[:)]

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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