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Do they produce a 25-08?

CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
edited January 2007 in Ask the Experts
Would it be similar to the 22-250?

If not, would it make a decent wildcat round?
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  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It would be similar to the 25-06! Only in a shorter package.
  • crims40crims40 Member Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If I remember right, they made a .25-08 wildcat quite awhile ago. But, I don't think it faired very well. People that tested it favored the .243 in the same bullet wt, etc. It was based on a necked down .308. Anyway, It has been done. [:)][:)]

    crims40
  • CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by crims40
    If I remember right, they made a .25-08 wildcat quite awhile ago. But, I don't think it faired very well. People that tested it favored the .243 in the same bullet wt, etc. It was based on a necked down .308. Anyway, It has been done. [:)][:)]

    crims40


    Ok then, answers my question. Thanks.
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  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    cubslover,

    Actually it was named the .25 Souper:

    But why call it Souper?

    The .25 Souper was originally developed by P.F. Lambert of Washington, D.C., according to Speer's Reloading Manual for Wildcat Cartridges (Number 4), published in 1960. (Incidentally, this rarely encountered jewel is one of only a few reloading manuals solely for wildcat cartridges ever published.) Despite my voracious readings about reloading over the past 45 years, I cannot recall ever finding a single other reference to Mr. Lambert. But if the only contribution he ever made to wildcatting was the .25 Souper, he deserves accolades. The cartridge is a winner. Why Souper, as he named it, instead of Super? Beats me - unless you've seen what it does to a varmint!

    http://www.reloadingroom.com/page10.html

    It's a terrific wildcat and goes hand-in-hand with the 25-06 and the other nice wildcat, the 25-284. You could even create a .25 cal. family if you were that devoted:

    25 Hornet
    25/223
    25 Souper
    25/284
    257 Condor
    257 STW

    Best.
  • CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the info NN! Another job well done!
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  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    cubslover,

    The .25-08 would be a very logical step considering that everything else based on the .308 case has been a success. It is pretty much just a step up from the .250-3000 Savage. A wonderful cartridge that does not deserve the title many gunwriters give it and that is obsolete.

    I know I've heard it called the .25 Souper before but haven't ever referred to it that way. I have only seen one built. It was out in Montana and the guy was a .257 Nut like me so anything .25 cal had to be tried. It was a fair bit more accurate than my .257 Roberts, but his was of course, built for accuracy. I wished at that point I hadn't sold my un-finished custom and hadn't bought my Ruger.

    The thought has crossed my mind several times about building one instead of the three other .25 cal's that I have barrels and actions for.
  • CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by sandwarrior
    cubslover,

    The .25-08 would be a very logical step considering that everything else based on the .308 case has been a success. It is pretty much just a step up from the .250-3000 Savage. A wonderful cartridge that does not deserve the title many gunwriters give it and that is obsolete.

    I know I've heard it called the .25 Souper before but haven't ever referred to it that way. I have only seen one built. It was out in Montana and the guy was a .257 Nut like me so anything .25 cal had to be tried. It was a fair bit more accurate than my .257 Roberts, but his was of course, built for accuracy. I wished at that point I hadn't sold my un-finished custom and hadn't bought my Ruger.

    The thought has crossed my mind several times about building one instead of the three other .25 cal's that I have barrels and actions for.


    Thanks, I have been toying with the idea of building a rifle. Also of building one in a wildcat chambering.
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  • scubabobfscubabobf Member Posts: 392 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi;
    The 25/08 would be very similar to the commercially available 260 Remington, which is a 264/08. The difference in bullet diameter is only 0.07 inches. Regards.
  • CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by scubabobf
    Hi;
    The 25/08 would be very similar to the commercially available 260 Remington, which is a 264/08. The difference in bullet diameter is only 0.07 inches. Regards.



    Ahhh. Good to know, thanks.
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  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I built a rifle about 8 years ago for a gentleman in Texas, on a Sako short action, Shilen Barrel, and a McMillan stock, in 25 Souper. It is an awesome performer in it's own right. I do agree that a factory 25-08, or a 25WSM(not to be confused with the 25 WSSM), would be a great addition. I have a 260 Rem also, and frankly it is not a speed demon. However, with the high ballistic coefficients, and sectional density the 6.5MM bullets offer it is a stellar performer. It has as much punch as the 308 at 400-500 yards, and shoots as flat as a 270(due to the high ballistic coefficients), and best of all, only hits the shoulder like a .243. There is always room for another great caliber rifle in the safe though...if not, I will get another safe!
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