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NH306NH306 Member Posts: 7 ✭✭
edited January 2007 in Ask the Experts
I have been given a Bayard 1908 in good shape and appears to be functioning well. I have also been given an American Arms Revolver w/ hammer. I have seen pictures of both but have found no information as far as history or value. Any informaion would be appreciated.
Dennis
rector@metrocast.net
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  • NH306NH306 Member Posts: 7 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    were would be a good place to shop for guns in dallas, texas
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  • NH306NH306 Member Posts: 7 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    i have a 1897 winchester 12 ga pump and a 1907 shile 303 british and would like to know how much thy are worth
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  • NH306NH306 Member Posts: 7 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can anyone explain to me what the term superposed means when talking about shout guns? Some people say it is an over and under but browning has an auto that says it is superposed.Thanks in advance . Toytown
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  • NH306NH306 Member Posts: 7 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    MY FATHER PASSED AWAY AND LEFT ME THREE GUNS. I AM TRYING TO GET A PRICE ON THEM.
    THE FIRST GUN IS A GERMAN LUGAR. IT IS PRETTY PLAIN WITH JUST THE NUMBER 82309 BELOW THE BARREL FACING FRONT. ON THE SIDE, ABOVE THE TRIGGER, JUST BEFORE THE BARREL IS THE LETTER N WITH A CROWN SYMBOL ABOVE IT. THIS SYMBOL IS ALSO ON THE TOP OF THE GUN WHERE IT LIFTS UP TO COCK. ON THE VERY TOP OF THE GUN APPEARS TO BE A MONAGRAM WHICH IS UNREADABLE. ON THE BACK OF THE GUN WHERE IT COCKS IS THE NUMBER 09.
    THE SECOND GUN IS ALSO A LUGER. THIS HAS THE NUMBER 1190 ON THE SIDE ABOVE THE TRIGGER BEFORE THE BARREL. BELOW THAT IS THE NUMBER 22 ON WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE SAFETY. THE NUMBER 22 IS ALSO ON TWO DIFFERENT SPOTS ON THIS SIDE ALONG WITH THE WORD GESICHERT. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GUN, THERE IS THE NUMBER 655 WITH WHAT APPEARS TO BE GERMAN SYMBOLS ABOVE IT TWO TIMES AND A GERMAN SYMBOL BY ITSELF. THIS IS ABOVE THE TRIGGER JUST BEFORE THE BARREL. ON THE FRONT OF THE GUN FACING OUT BELOW THE BARREL IS THE NUMBER 4622 WITH A LOWER CASE N BELOW IT. ON THE TOP OF THE GUN THERE IS THE NUMBER 41, THE NUMBER 22 TWO MORE TIMES AND AN S/42.
    THE THIRD GUN IS A MAUSER. ON THE TOP PART OF THE BARREL THERE ARE THE WORDS "WAFFENFABRIK MAUSER OBERNDORF A/N". BELOW THAT IS THE NUMBER 206432. BELOW THAT IS THE LETTER U WITH TWO SYMBOLS ABOVE IT. ON THE SIDE OF THE GUN THERE ARE THE SAME WORDS AS THE TOP OF THE GUN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE N IS REPLACED WITH THE WORD "NECKAR". ON THE HAMMER OF THE GUN IS THE NUMBER 432. THAT NUMBER IS ALSO WHERE THE HAMMER HITS. BELOW THE HAMMER IS THE NUMBER 206432.
    I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM SOMEONE.
    THANKS,
    ED
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  • NH306NH306 Member Posts: 7 ✭✭
    edited November -1
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello the Bayard was made by Belgian firm of Pieper they were copies of the SMITH & WESSON military and police.American arms co.made a over under revolving barrel Derringer. the american nut and arms co. Boston made a model 1868 and this pistol is marked American Arms Co. Boston Wheelers Pat.Oct 31 1865 June 19 1866. Your pistols may be different models but this is all I have. Cheers karl
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  • Bill DeShivsBill DeShivs Member Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe the 1908 Bayard was a semi auto.
    Bill
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  • 1KYDSTR1KYDSTR Member Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    2nd the auto thing...little 32 as I recall?
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Believe their were actually ( 2 ) different 1908 Bayards. One was the small pocket .32 mentioned by the other posters. The other was the large military 9mm with the removeable magazine in front of the trigger guard. It more commonly known as the Bergmann-Bayard.
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  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Model 1908 Bayard- Herstal Belgium, Anciens Etablissements Peiper. Made in 25, 32, and 380 calibers- 1908 to 1923. About 16 oz auto pistol, 6 shot mag, blued, hard rubber grips. about $150- 400 depending on condition.
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  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There's a Model 1908 Bayard collector at http://members.aol.com/bayard1908/index.html

    Quote from his website:

    <begin quote> I would be happy to answer all Bayard questions, except shotgun questions, and can accurately estimate your pistol's date of manufacture based on the serial number. These pistols were made in .25, .32, and .380 caliber by Anciens Etablissements Pieper of Herstal Belgium and have a September 8, 1908 patent date on top of the slide. They may also be marked, "Modele Depose" or have a metric caliber designation of 6.35mm, 7.65mm, or 9mm.

    Please contact:

    Mr. Dan Chapman
    Downsizer Corporation
    P.O. Box 710316
    Santee, CA 92072-0316 U.S.A.
    (619) 448-5510
    email: bayard1908@aol.com

    <end quote>

    I'm sure he would be happy to assist you.

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