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Winchester Model 12

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  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a 1929 Winchester Model 12, 16 guage, 2 3/4. I believe it to be a field grade with 2 barrel assemblies. Barrel 1 is a 22 inch improved cylinder with a solid rib. Barrel 2 is a 28 inch with loop sight. The gun is in fair to good condition and was wondering what it might be worth.

    I would have attached pics if I could figure out how to do it.
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have 2 questions.
    First,Im just wondering how I would go about changing a left-hand safe back to the original right-hand safe.

    And 2, what is the correct way to measure the barrel length of a Model 12.

    Thanks
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a model 12 winchester,serial number is 1114092.its a 12 ga,with a 2 3/4 chamber with a cutts comp on the barrel.could anyone tell me how old it is..thanks
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester Model 12 that I am trying to put a plug into for duck hunting. I can not figure out how to get the magazine open to put the plug in. Is there a trick to this? Wlll this require tools? Thank you in advance for the help.
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have a 20 gauge model 12 that will not lock. Have replaced the barrel chamber ring, ejector to no effect. Extractor looks good and weapon will eject, however not stay locked. Does anybody have any advice on this matter. Greatly appreciated!!
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester Model 12 that was passed down to me. I would never sell but i have always been curious about the rarity and the value. The seriel # on the reciever is 932059. The number on the barrel and forend is 933059. I also have another barrel and forend. the # on it is 933059. both barrels are 12 ga 2 3/4. One barrel is marked FULL. Any info would be greatly appreciated
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [?]I aguired [2]model2 from my grandfather would like some imfromation on them 1 is 12ga superspeed@superX 30" barrel mattel rim proof steel barrel sn#1193976 what is it wotrh @ what year was it made. any imfo please [:)]
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just inherited a Winchester Model 12 20 gauge shotgun that belonged to my grandfather. The serial # is 388906. Any idea when it was manufactured?
    Thanks
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I need to get some info on the "Y series"
    models..I believe they were only produced the last couple of years before
    Winchester sold out to US Repeating arms--late 50s and pre 64.. I think all Y
    series Mod 12s had a ventilated rib..but do not know what gauges were available
    for sure..Do know they had a Model 12 12 gauge TRAP gun..Would like to know if
    they had field guns--barrel lentghs and chokes..also did they make a 16 gauge..I
    like the 28 gauge so much now I am compliplating a 12 or 16 gauge, but must be a
    Y series..If available they will undoubtably be hard to find and no doubt out of
    my price range, but I am curious.

    Thanks

    Rockton
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester model 12, 12 gauge 26" ws1 that was made in 1963 that I use for grouse hunting. It shoots and points like a dream, however within the last year or so sometimes it is extremely hard to push the pump back forward once fired to load the second round. I have taken the receiver apart multiple times to clean and lube everything inside, I even took it to a local gunsmith, he honed some of the sliding parts inside, he said because of their design this was the nature of the model 12. It doesn't do this every time I shoot just at random. Does anyone know of a special lube or something I could use. I also found a receiver from a Y model 12 for sale, would my barrel and stock interchange with it? I know the Y models were casted instead of machined, does this effect the smoothness of the action? Any help appreciated. Thanks
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a older model 12 i picked up about 20 years ago and cant find much on it as far as its value. I was manufactured in the US with matching serial number of 1660872. It has a 30 inch barrel with factory ventalated rib with a 2 3/4 inch chamber and full choke. I also has a peep sight install behind the bolt that appears to have been after market. If anyone has any information on this firearm, its history and value please help me out. I have seen one very simular in Cabella's gun library with a price take of about $1800, only notable difference was the serial number which was 157xxxx with a 3 inch chamber.

    The wood on my gun is in excellent condition and the metal in very good condition with a fair amount of bluing wear on the receiver.
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am having problems with a model 12 winchester. When assembled, the cartridge cutoff does not block the magazine when the bolt is closed and you cannot load shells as they pop back out. What am I doing wrong?
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have just received a Winchester model 1912 12 guage full choke, serial number 769** with a 30" barrel. Can anyone give me a clue about the date of manufacture? Gun is not for sale, but was left to me by my great-grandfather. Thanks. Earl.
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can a winchester model 12 12 gauge 2 3/4" chamber be modified ( have chamber lenghtened) to shoot 3" shells
    The reason i ask is i own a model 12 roit gun (watts commemorative edition[:D]) which is in like new condition. I would like to purchase a extra barrel/ mag,forearm which i see a lot of on ebay. I would like to have a spare duck gun realize the new set up will have to be fitted .What i really wanted was a 12 heavy duck
    thanks rp
  • gunut 1gunut 1 Member Posts: 359 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    450-525 if all original.......if it has the box and papers double that.....
  • only winchestersonly winchesters Member Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello baba1: Well as gunut said "original" is they driving factor. while the gun is 50 years old, it's definately old enough to have been reblued along the way.

    you'll want to look close at the Proof Marks on the front of the receiver and rear of the barrel. These were the last thing that all Md 12s had struck. Meaning you should see some raised metal, and where the stamp broke through the blue and left some metal "in the white". also look at the chamber ring that sits infront of the breech bolt, with the barrel assy. off it should be "in the white" not blued. If original, the adjusting sleeve should still be on the first notch, not in the middle.

    The wood should be in the same condition as the metal or real close behind.

    Assuming your talking about a plain barrel field grade gun, I'd would say about $425-$550. depending on how you try to sell it. since this would be the driving factor. Plus if you just try locally vs the internet and GB here it will be most likely at the lower end.

    Regards Dave
  • baba1baba1 Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for all of the info.I do know that this gun was bought in 1956 and that it has never been re blued.The man that has this gun has shot a few squirrels with it and that is all the action this gun has ever seen.
  • turtles11756turtles11756 Member Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    all original from the front sight bead down to the buttplate get the shotgun
  • timbromantimbroman Member Posts: 1,164
    edited November -1
    Welcome to the GB - There isn't much else to say - you have described a 1958/1959 (?) shotgun that I would consider a bargain at $500.00 - I would buy it if I had the opportunity.
  • freddbear4freddbear4 Member Posts: 154 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have to laugh when I read about people concerned about value reduced because a gun has been reblued. Where is there a shotgun today that comes close to the quality of a Model 12 Winchester pump original or reblued that comes close in the $500 price range ?? BUY IT !! and ENJOY IT !! They don't make em anymore...
  • spooksterspookster Member Posts: 513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just picked one up 16ga completely nickel plated,,not just "nickel steel-- on the barrel,,,the whole thing is nickel plated,,,,anyone ever seen one like that ??? only winchester's,,,Bert said you were the man to ask
    Thanks
    Jim
  • OhioFarmBoyOhioFarmBoy Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Winchester's great exhibition shooter, Herb Parsons, shot nickel plated Model 12's in his shows. He called them his "Mae West" guns for their flashy beauty and features.

    I've seen Tom Knapp, Patrick Flanagan and others...sure wish I could have seen Herb Parsons in real life.

    Great website to read about his shows...

    http://www.showmanshooter.com/
  • only winchestersonly winchesters Member Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello Spookster: Well I have to ask, how do you know it's "nickel plated"? If you take a Md 12 to a polisihing wheel, and polish it, it will shine like chrome!

    Can you post pictures?

    Regards dave
  • spooksterspookster Member Posts: 513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dave,,,I could tell because every little piece was removed and plated except for the barrel,;;ser #s were all but polished off,,then they added bishop wood to it,,,,I would post pics,,,but my neighbor wanted it to hunt bunnies with,,since we do alot of hunting together and i still carry my grandads M-12-16ga,,,Its like an extension of my body,,,If you still want some pics,,,I can get him to bring it over and send ys some
    email me direct at johnnab@npacc.net and i will reply with pics this afternoon
    JIM
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