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Remington 870

Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
edited December 2007 in Ask the Experts
Do they or don't they (remignton that is) make an 870 with a 7-shot magazine as opposed to the ubiquitous 6 shot I see everywhere? I seem to recall seeing one in Shotgun News but I haven't been able to find one on GB. If so, where can I get one?

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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    After I take a shot my next round 80% of the time will not load into the chamber, I have a B Square side mount for my scope, can it be that the receiver is being distorted enough to cause this malfunction??? Thanks for any suggestions.
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    anyway to date 870 wingmasters ? just got an older one.
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just an update....

    I found all the things I needed for the 870. A tactical forend, which included a M3 Illuminator, belt carrier for the illuminator and 2 new lithium batteries, a top folding stock w/ tactical pistol grip and a side saddle shell holder all for $250. Not bad considering that I had only $100 in the shotgun. Thanks for the input everyone. Next on the list is a Sig P226 .357. I can but it know in the box, never been fired with the Sig case for $350. Good deal or not. I haven't had much expeience with Sigs. I have heard several issues, but none have been definant. Thanks.
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    have older Wingmaster 2 3/4" 16 ga that needs some help. Not finding very many parts on GB. My question is, are the 12 ga and 16 ga Wingmasters the same frame so wood stocks be interchangeable?
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have what could turn out to be a silly question. I recently purchased a used Remington 870 Express 12 gauge shotgun. It was sold to me as a Magnum being said that it will shoot 3" shells. It is not labeled Magnum it just says Remington 870 Express on the side of the receiver but it does however have an M after the serial number. The barrel is confusing as well because it says 2 3/4" or 3" shells in magnum receivers and 2 3/4" only in others. I have no idea how to figure it out. Does the M after the serial number denote that I have a magnum receiver and can in fact shoot 3" shells from this gun? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where can I find INFO on the Remington 870 express magnum home defense 12ga? I can't find it anywhere on the web, including the remington site.
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where can I find info on the Remington 870 express magnum home defense 12ga? I can't find it anywhere on the web, including the remington site.
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Remington 870 wingmaster with a slug barrel. Can I put a regular barrel on it? Can it be a 3" barrel?
    Thanks in advance for your help!
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I could use a little help in deciding which model of 870 is built the best, the most reliable and will stand up to heavy use. I have a wingmaster set up for home defense never had any problems. I would like to get a 20 ga for my sister for self defense. Most of all I see being sold is the express models are they as good as other models of the 870 and what do I need to know about them before I buy? What is the best model type? Thank you
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Remington 870 shot gun with a approx 16" barrel. I am being told that I can purchase longer barrels if I want to change them out for hunting, etc... Any info on this would be helpful.

    Thanks,
    Mike
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just acquired a beautiful Remington 870 SC (Better Skeet Grade) in 12 Ga. The barrel does not have a serial number...is this the case for 870's? Barrel code says made in Dec '82. Also, would a 16Ga barrel fit into this gun? Thanks!
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I found an older Remington 870 I was looking at buying. It all looks nice but the lettering is white colored. Did Remington ever put white lettering on their shotguns? The shotgun I am looking at is probably mid to late 1970s it could be real early 80s but I don't think so.
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    did the early 870s have the forearm similar to the Winchester grooved forearm>
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is the Remington 870 7-shot 20 Ga. pump a good shotgun?
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just bougt a Remington 870 Magnum with a scope on it. I cannot
    find the serial number on it. Is it under the scope mount? and
    am I going to have to take the scope off to fint it? Thanks in
    advance for the help.

    We have gravity on earth because the world sucks
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I recently purchased a remington 870 12 gauge NWTH limited edition. I want to build a tactical shotgun for home defense purposes, should I take apart this limited edition piece, or search for a different lower reciever?
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can the safety be reversed from right hand to left hand operation ?
    Thanks!
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    is there any way to change an 870 that only shoots 2 3/4 inch shells to accomidate 3 or 3 1/2 inch shells?
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    From the Remington website:

    "NOTE: Model 870 Extra Barrels with 3" chambers will fit Super Magnum, Magnum, and 2-3/4" receivers. These barrels will handle both 2-3/4" and 3" shells when used on Magnum receivers. Use only 2-3/4" shells when these barrels are used on 2-3/4" receivers."

    In other words, "NO".

    Neal
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  • Sav99Sav99 Member Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The chambering is a receiver spec as well as a barrel spec.
    DO NOT try to fire a 3" shell in a 2/34" receiver.
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nmyers
    From the Remington website:

    "NOTE: Model 870 Extra Barrels with 3" chambers will fit Super Magnum, Magnum, and 2-3/4" receivers. These barrels will handle both 2-3/4" and 3" shells when used on Magnum receivers. Use only 2-3/4" shells when these barrels are used on 2-3/4" receivers."

    In other words, "NO".

    Neal
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  • makindumakindu Member Posts: 382 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    GB regulars are going to really get on my case, me thinks, for sharing my solution with you. The main reason that you can't shoot 3 inch shells out of a 2 3/4 inch chamber is because there isn't enough room for the plastic shell end crimp to expand upon firing, thus creating exessive and very dangerously high barrel chamber pressures. For years, I've been taking turkeys with 3 inch magnums using an old 870 2 3/4 inch standard receiver with the old 30 inch full choke (fixed choke) barrel. I simply cut the end of the 3 inch magnum plastic shell off (basically the end crimp, thus shortening the overall shell length (even after firing) to 2 3/4 inches. An Exacto knife or sheetrock Knife works great. Simply seal up the end the shell with wax and/or a little circle of cardboard and wax (like from cereal box cardboard, for example) so that the bb's stay in place. To the best of my knowledge, the modern day 3 inch magnum receiver isn't tempered any differently than the older standard 2 3/4 inch receiver. The receivers are the same thickness. Hence, the receivers are the same tempered strength. The only difference that I am aware of is that the extractor is pinned deeper back in the magnum receiver, and the ejection port is slightly longer. NOTE: REMINGTON HAS NEVER RECOMMENDED THE ABOVE SOLUTION. YOU USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK, but it has worked fine for me for many years. And many a Tom has toppled.
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  • deadeye46deadeye46 Member Posts: 550 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Frank,slip me an email
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  • Fade2GrayFade2Gray Member Posts: 54 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Far be it from me to criticize anyone's ingenuity, but wouldn't it be easier and safer to just buy a 3 inch chambered shotgun? Very interesting but seems like a lot of work to get the needed results. But, what do I know?

    What is so much better about 3 inch over the 2 3/4?
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  • makindumakindu Member Posts: 382 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The original poster was looking for a possible 'work around' solution with his present 870 receiver. With regards to your second question, 3 inch loads generally provide better pattern density at longer distances, say for waterfowl or turkeys, and hence, extend the effective kill zone versus the 2 3/4 inch load. Ditto for 3 1/2 inch shells. In general, more bbs means more pattern density for a given distance. Of course, it is best to pattern your individual shotgun on paper at the distance you expect to be taking game, to be certain that the patterns it is throwing with that particular load will be sufficient to knock down game cleanly, and not just * them such that they fly off elsewhere and die.
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  • Fade2GrayFade2Gray Member Posts: 54 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Makindu-
    Thanks! Didn't know that. But, it does make sense in thinking about it...
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  • boogerbooger Member Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    870 2 3/4 to 3" is easy. The standard redneck way is switch from a "short" 2 3/4 ejector spring to a 3" ejector spring in the receiver. Then get a 3" barrel, you're done. (It's usually cheaper and simpler to find a barrel than to have a gunsmith ream out the chamber 1/4 inch, however, your mileage may vary)

    There is no way to change from 2 3/4 to 3 1/2.
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by makindu
    GB regulars are going to really get on my case, me thinks, for sharing my solution with you. The main reason that you can't shoot 3 inch shells out of a 2 3/4 inch chamber is because there isn't enough room for the plastic shell end crimp to expand upon firing, thus creating exessive and very dangerously high barrel chamber pressures. For years, I've been taking turkeys with 3 inch magnums using an old 870 2 3/4 inch standard receiver with the old 30 inch full choke (fixed choke) barrel. I simply cut the end of the 3 inch magnum plastic shell off (basically the end crimp, thus shortening the overall shell length (even after firing) to 2 3/4 inches. An Exacto knife or sheetrock Knife works great. Simply seal up the end the shell with wax and/or a little circle of cardboard and wax (like from cereal box cardboard, for example) so that the bb's stay in place. To the best of my knowledge, the modern day 3 inch magnum receiver isn't tempered any differently than the older standard 2 3/4 inch receiver. The receivers are the same thickness. Hence, the receivers are the same tempered strength. The only difference that I am aware of is that the extractor is pinned deeper back in the magnum receiver, and the ejection port is slightly longer. NOTE: REMINGTON HAS NEVER RECOMMENDED THE ABOVE SOLUTION. YOU USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK, but it has worked fine for me for many years. And many a Tom has toppled.
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  • Frank GoadFrank Goad Member Posts: 100 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Frank Goad
    quote:Originally posted by makindu
    GB regulars are going to really get on my case, me thinks, for sharing my solution with you. The main reason that you can't shoot 3 inch shells out of a 2 3/4 inch chamber is because there isn't enough room for the plastic shell end crimp to expand upon firing, thus creating exessive and very dangerously high barrel chamber pressures. For years, I've been taking turkeys with 3 inch magnums using an old 870 2 3/4 inch standard receiver with the old 30 inch full choke (fixed choke) barrel. I simply cut the end of the 3 inch magnum plastic shell off (basically the end crimp, thus shortening the overall shell length (even after firing) to 2 3/4 inches. An Exacto knife or sheetrock Knife works great. Simply seal up the end the shell with wax and/or a little circle of cardboard and wax (like from cereal box cardboard, for example) so that the bb's stay in place. To the best of my knowledge, the modern day 3 inch magnum receiver isn't tempered any differently than the older standard 2 3/4 inch receiver. The receivers are the same thickness. Hence, the receivers are the same tempered strength. The only difference that I am aware of is that the extractor is pinned deeper back in the magnum receiver, and the ejection port is slightly longer. NOTE: REMINGTON HAS NEVER RECOMMENDED THE ABOVE SOLUTION. YOU USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK, but it has worked fine for me for many years. And many a Tom has toppled.
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