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Submachine Gun Ammo in Pistols????

RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
edited July 2004 in Ask the Experts
I was given some Samson brand ammo in 9mm.

It says on the box "For use in carbines and submachine guns only, not for use in pistols"

I have heard that Ruger pistols will shoot this ammo with no problems and not voiding any implied warranty.

I have a KP89, KP93, and KP95, would it hurt to shoot this ammo in any of these guns??


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    captkirk3@dslextreme.comcaptkirk3@dslextreme.com Member Posts: 3,804
    edited November -1
    Check with the Manufacturer..Gunmaker and or Ammo Maker..Machinegun Ammo builds more pressure than standard Ammo....You don't want heresay...You want Fact!!!!

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    kingjoeykingjoey Member Posts: 8,636
    edited November -1
    Don't do it. SMG ammo has a different burn and impulse time to help cycle the action. It is probably +P+ rating (or hotter) too. I'm going to need some for testing a prototype in a few months and that stuff is fairly commonly used in SMG's.

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    HangfireHangfire Member Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wouldn't do it. All the years I had my FFL, I chose not to sell that ammo for the protection of my customers.I had tried some and could tell a definate difference in recoil in my P226 SIG.

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    BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    Well Grasshopper to make a long story short, any handgun that you want to shoot SMG ammo must be rated for +P ammo. I would like to share some information I gleaned from IMI a couple of years ago. quote:Boomerang
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    posted August 07, 2002 05:09 AM
    Can anyone explain to me the difference between these two cartridges? Is 9mm Carb ammo safe to fire in a pistol? Is 9mm Carb ammo loaded to higher pressures than regular 9mm Luger ammo (e.g. +P+ levels or higher)? I was told that 9mm Carb is loaded to the same pressures as 9mm Luger, but just has a stiffer/harder primer surface so as to prevent slam fires from occuring in UZIs and other carbines. So then, what is the real story on this ammo?

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    [ August 08, 2002, 09:27 AM: Message edited by: Boomerang ]
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    posted October 14, 2002 06:42 PM
    The correct updated description for "9mm Carb" is 9mm Luger +P. 9mm Luger +P is loaded to higher pressure levels than standard 9mm Luger ammo. 9mm Luger +P can have pressure of up to 2550 KG/CM 2 while standard Luger can have pressure of up to only 2320 KG/CM 2. The 9mm Luger +P round is designed for use with 9mm Luger +P pistols and also for use in submachine guns. Therefore 9mm Luger +P should not be considered as safe for firing in every pistol. The primer for both the +P round and the standard Luger round can be identical.
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