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Winchester 1892 Take down

nohowtoonohowtoo Member Posts: 9 ✭✭
edited January 2007 in Ask the Experts
I just picked up a 1892 takedown in 44 WCF. I has a Tange Site and TWO barrels One with a rear site and the other has no rear site. How rare is this? the gun was made in 1910 by the SR #5455XX The gun is good shape not beat up but not perfect either. Let me know Thanks Jon
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  • nohowtoonohowtoo Member Posts: 9 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I recently came across a Winchester Model 1892 in 44-40. I believe it is the take down version as there was a latch on the end of the mag tube dated 1893. Ont the receiver there are a few words that appear to be factory engraved. Any information on this gun and the price range as to what it might be worth would be great. I understand without seeing it or pictures it makes it difficult.
    Thanks. Please e-mail clinthecker@hotmail.com
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello Jon,

    Serial 545,5xx was not manufactured in 1910 (it is likely to be several years later).

    Factory two barrel Takedown sets are extremely rare, and most of them are not chambered for the same caliber. I assume (because you did not state otherwise), that you were implying that both barrel assemblies are 44 W.C.F.[?] Until I know a bit more about your Model 1892, I very highly doubt at this point that it is an authentic two-barrel set. We can start by answering the follwing questions;

    Are both barrel assemblies chambered for the 44 W.C.F. cartridge?

    What is the exact length of each barrel?

    Do both barrels have identical address, caliber, and proof marking stamps?

    Does the forend stock wood on each barrel assembly very closely match?

    The best way for me to evaluate exactly what you have (and possibly aunthenticate it), is for you to post pictures of it (or send them to me).

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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  • oldgunmanoldgunman Member Posts: 1,779 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would really like to see pictures also if possible. Thanks.
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  • nohowtoonohowtoo Member Posts: 9 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pic will come later the barrels are both marked 44wcf They are both octogon and the lenth of both them are 24 inches They are both marked
    Manufactuerd by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company
    New Haven Conn.U.S.A. Patiened October 14 1884
    The barrel with rear site is a smoth bore NOT SHOT OUT
    Both forearms are the same color
    Both barrels have all the sane markins I hope this helps the pic will post later tonight or am tues thanks for all the help Jon
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello Jon,

    That is important (and very interesting) information. The smooth bore barrel is very intriguing.

    Are both barrel assemblies serial numbered to the receiver (look under the forend stock if it is not clearly stamped on the takedown ring assembly)?

    I will look forward to seeing the pictures with great anticipation. Please include a photo of both barrel assemblies lying right next to one another, and showing the Winchester address stamp forward of the rear sight.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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  • nohowtoonohowtoo Member Posts: 9 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    both barrels are marked circle P circle VP both marked 44 the smooth bore has a F stamp the rifled barrel has a F stamp and a 3 stamp I cant find any more numbers
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nohowtoo
    both barrels are marked circle P circle VP both marked 44 the smooth bore has a F stamp the rifled barrel has a F stamp and a 3 stamp I cant find any more numbers



    Jon,

    This last bit of information is bad news[:(]. The circle "P" with a circle "WP" (superposed letters) definitively tell me that it is not a factory original Model 1892 two-barrel takedown set. Instead, somebody ordered factory new replacement barrels, and then built them into a two-barrel set.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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  • sotheresothere Member Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We still want pic's even with mail order proofs.It's an educational opportunity.Thanks
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  • nohowtoonohowtoo Member Posts: 9 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Having issues posting pic you can e mail me and I will send you pics for anyone wanting to see them THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP BY way what is its value nohowtoo@hotmail.com
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nohowtoo
    Having issues posting pic you can e mail me and I will send you pics for anyone wanting to see them THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP BY way what is its value nohowtoo@hotmail.com


    I sent you my work email address for the pictures, and I can give you a value estimate after seeing the photos.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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