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ITHACA AUTO BURGLARY 20 GA

FOXMOUNTAINFOXMOUNTAIN Member Posts: 53 ✭✭
edited February 2008 in Ask the Experts
WHAT IS AN ITHACA AUTO BURGLARY 20 GA HAMMERLESS GUN WORTH. IT IS PROPERLY REGISTERED AND IS IN GREAT CONDITION. THE GUN HAS THE PISTOL GRIP AND SHORT BARREL AND IS ALL ORIGINAL. I HAVE A FRIEND THAT HAS HAD IT FOR YEARS AND WANTS TO KNOW ITS VALUE, THANKS

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    MooseyardMooseyard Member Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm going to guess in the $700-800 range. It's been awhile since I've seen one for sale.
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    11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,588 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The correct name is Auto Burglar (no Y) Don't see very many of these- last one I saw for sale, owner was asking $1,250. BTW, there IS a leather holster that was made for these.
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    sheepdipsheepdip Member Posts: 3,124
    edited November -1
    THE ITHACA AUTO AND BURGLAR

    By L. Neil Smith <lneil@ezlink.com>

    Exclusive to _The Libertarian Enterprise_


    The faded magazine ad haunts us across six long decades of
    stupidity and corruption:

    "Here's the Ithaca Auto and Burglar gun, the so-called
    "Sawed Off Shot Gun" which holdup men fear because its load of
    sixteen buckshot spread over such a wide circle that a poor gun
    pointer, who would miss with a revolver or pistol ... is very
    sure to hit ... handy to carry in the pocket of an auto or in a
    holster ... Detective Harry Loose ... first induced the banks in
    and around Chicago to use it, then its use spread to sheriffs,
    police departments, paymasters, watchmen, express messengers, and
    it's a wonderful home protector. The U.S. Army demonstrated what
    American shotguns ... would do during the late war. This Ithaca
    Auto and Burglar Gun weighs about 1 1/4 pounds, it has 20 gauge
    12 1/4" barrels, cylinder bore ... Price, including excise tax,
    $40.55."

    The Ithaca Auto and Burglar was a veritable marvel in its time, a
    near-perfect blue steel and walnut "magic wand" of self-defense,
    against strong-arm artists and protection racketeers in the age in
    which it was introduced, ideal -- because of its light weight,
    moderate caliber, limited range, and short length -- for women, the
    elderly, and children who might require it, not only against house
    burglars, muggers, and the like, but against an abusive or incestuous
    parent.

    If John Lennon had been carrying an Ithaca Auto and Burglar under
    his coat, the Fab Four would be selling live albums of their fifth
    reunion concert by now.

    It is illegal -- or, more accurately and revealingly, placed
    beyond the reach of all but an economic and political elite -- and
    has been since 1934, because its 12 1/4" barrels are 5 3/4" shorter
    than federal law mandates, and its overall length -- roughly 20" --
    is shy, by about the same amount, of the minimum length specified by
    a statute that should never have been passed or judicially upheld in
    a nation with something like a Second Amendment in its Constitution.

    When I was a kid, my first lesson in politics arose from the fact
    that my home town, Fort Collins, Colorado, was "dry" -- which is to
    say that it was illegal to sell "adult beverages" within the city
    limits, and had been since Prohibition. What made it educational was
    that this imbecilic situation was maintained at the polls every year
    by a tacit coalition of self-righteously muttering church ladies like
    my own grandmother, and -- to begin with -- by bootleggers who plied
    their trade inside the town, and later on, by proprietors of bars and
    liquor stores that came to surround the "Choice City" in a tight
    ring.

    If you understand that, you understand the politics of victim
    disarmament -- commonly and improperly known as "gun control".
    National politics of the 1930s were dominated by an unprecedented
    violence and corruption that sprang directly from trying to outlaw
    production, distribution, and consumption of ethanol. Every bit of
    the criminal activity -- gang-wars, drive-by shootings, summary
    search and seizure, asset forfeiture -- that we have come to
    associate in our times with drug prohibition arose, to begin with, in
    the "Roaring Twenties".

    In those days, Al Capone was the most politically powerful
    individual in Chicago, in the Midwest, and possibly in the United
    States. He purchased city councilmen, state legislators, congressmen
    and senators the same way that I (the daddy of an electronic-age
    seven-year-old) purchase AA batteries. Others of his kind did as
    much of the same thing as they could. I leave it to _you_ to figure
    out whose interests were _really_ being represented in Congress in
    1934.

    The "weapon of choice" for creatures like Al Capone was hardly
    the Ithaca and Auto Burglar, or even the infamous Thompson
    Submachinegun, it was the lives of countless revolver-carrying
    cannon-fodder thugs, and the influence of crooked politicians.

    Who was really protected by the Ithaca and Auto Burglar and the
    Tommy Gun? Shopkeepers, householders, and especially truck drivers
    whose vehicles were often stopped and stolen (just as Florida
    pleasure boats are today) to serve as disposable conveyances for
    illicit alcohol. One store proprietor with a "sawed off" scattergun
    could discourage three or four goons who'd come to collect. One
    truck driver with a "Chicago Piano" could run off a dozen highwaymen.

    As surely as the Gun Control Act of 1968 was passed to disarm the
    militant _non_-nonviolent blacks who were threatening to overturn the
    political apple cart ...

    As surely as the Brady Bill was passed because a certain variety
    of men -- well-represented in politics -- are mortally afraid to see
    women begin to arm themselves ...

    As surely as Bill Bennett and Bill Clinton's rifle and magazine
    law was passed because -- in this dangerous age of multiple
    assailants, when a single individual's only chance against a gang is
    often firepower, and the ideal weapons of self-defense are
    semiautomatic rifles and pistols -- both right wing and left wing
    socialists couldn't bear the humiliation of Korean store owners
    successfully defending themselves against their clients during the LA
    riots ...

    The Ithaca Auto and Burglar was stamped out because it threatened
    gangsters and hijackers who were the real constituency of the
    congressmen who outlawed it.

    Now Daniel Patrick Moynihan crawls dripping out of his butt of
    Malmsey to attack expanding handgun bullets with a proposed 10,000
    percent tax, exactly as he earlier attacked small caliber cartridges.
    Why? Could it be because they're _effective_ for use by ordinary
    productive class people against the freelance thieves and muggers
    who, as a statist, Moynihan naturally identifies with?

    Write Moynihan. Ask him. And while you're at it, ask the
    sonofabitch why he shouldn't spend his long-overdue retirement behind
    bars, for having tried to deprive every man, woman, and responsible
    child in this country of their unalienable individual, civil,
    Constitutional, and human right to obtain, own, and carry, openly or
    concealed, any weapon -- rifle, shotgun, handgun, machinegun,
    _anything_ -- any time, any place, without asking anyone's
    permission.

    Ask him.

    ***
    Permission to redistribute this article is hereby granted by the
    author, provided it is reproduced unedited, in its entirety, and
    appropriate credit given.
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    triple223taptriple223tap Member Posts: 385 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Write Moynihan? He died five years ago. LMAO!
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    woodshed87woodshed87 Member Posts: 25,785
    edited November -1
    Wow[8D] That Sounds Like A Great Shotgun/ Pistol
    I take it it was a Side By Side By the Description.[:D]
    I think "Every TaxPaying Non- Felonious Legal American Should Own One" [:0] Any Takers?
    You Know Its Gonna Happen!!!!!!![;)]



    Remember History Repeats Itself!!!!!!!
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    RobinRobin Member Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    While you are talking about the Ithaca product, you should also throw in the various H&R Handy guns and the various Marble Gamegetter models. I for one find them facinating firearms and believe there is no reason in the world they should not be removed from the NFA registry and added to the C&R list.

    It is this simple, a thug or thief is not going to buy an Ithaca Auto or a H&R Handy gun or a Marble gamegetter if he decides he wants a short smooth bore. Instead he will get a $3.99 hack saw and a $100.00 single shot or some other cheap shotgun and make his own.

    Having the Ithaca, H&R and Marble products on the NFA registry is plain silly. As the greatest generation thins out more and more of these "classics" will show up. In its present form the NFA registry will no doubt create accidental felons out of law abiding citizens. Unfair laws should be corrected.
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    woodshed87woodshed87 Member Posts: 25,785
    edited November -1
    Well Said Robin
    Thank You!!!!!!!





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    My Dad..[^]
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