Winchester model 1890 Questions

CoreyDYoung

Hi my name is Corey and I recently just aquired a model 1890 winchester and from what I have maybe been able to find is it's a second model but im not 100% and I would like to hear a experts answer the Serial number is 204429 and it is on two places of the gun so that gives makes me know its a model 2 or 3 and it also has "Manufactured by the winchester repeating arms co. New Haven,conn USA pant June 26th 88 Dec 6 32 and my real question is what is the value of this gun and how would i go about selling it.

Floyd58523

you will need to post clear pictures and the experts will give you a good estimate of what is may sell for.

Read the sticky posted above for instructions

CoreyDYoung

I also have a really old muzzle loader that I have no idea how to ID because it only has a few numbers on it and im pretty sure its civil war era as there is no rifling in the barrel which would make sense because it has the old type pull back flint and they shot lead balls in the civil war which would explain no rifling. If im way off please let me know

1KYDSTR

Flintlocks generally (though not exclusively) predate the civil war. Pictures, pictures, pictures.

CoreyDYoung

They are coming! I had to go grab the big camera they will be on shortly.

CoreyDYoung

1890 Winchester

Flint Muzzle loader?


Hopefully these load!

Bert H.

Hello Corey and welcome to GB.

Your Model 1890 is indeed a Second Model, and it was serialized in June of 1904.

The value is primarily determined by the graded condition, and secondarily by which specific .22 caliber cartridge it is chambered for. We need to see the pictures to assess the condition.

Edit: You posted the pictures while I was typing my reply.

The graded condition is less than 20%, dropping it out of the "collector" category. If the bore is decent, it will make a fine shooter. The value is less than $500.

CoreyDYoung

Would you be able to tell me what the flint muzzle loader is or anything about it ? and thank you for the info on the 1890! Corey

Bert H.

quote:Originally posted by CoreyDYoung
I posted pictures of both the rifles i have questions about mainly the 1890 since it is verifiable but how do i got about finding out what round it is chambered for?


It should be clearly marked (stamped) on the top flat of the barrel just in front of the frame ring (behind the rear sight). If you can not see the cartridge marking, the condition is a bit worse than I previously stated.

Bert H.

quote:Originally posted by CoreyDYoung
Would you be able to tell me what the flint muzzle loader is or anything about it ? and thank you for the info on the 1890! Corey


I know nothing about it... my interest and forte is almost exclusively Winchester. I would suggest starting a new post specifically about it.

CoreyDYoung

Well thank you, out of curiousity how is the condition of the gun graded? I thought it was in pretty good condition but lol i was wrong otherwise.

Bert H.

quote:Originally posted by CoreyDYoung
Well thank you, out of curiousity how is the condition of the gun graded? I thought it was in pretty good condition but lol i was wrong otherwise.


The condition is graded by the amount (%) of original factory finish (bluing) still on all of the steel parts, the clarity of the factory stamped markings (e.g. the address on the barrel, the caliber stamp, the proof marks (if present), the sharpness of the corners of each barrel flat, and then you look at the wood (dents, gouges, splits cracks, etc. The condition of the rifling and lands in the bore is also factored in. Also of concern are the screw head slots and if they are original... the slide handle retaining screw on the left side of your rifle is not original.

Your Model 1890 is best described as a well worn "brown" gun... in otherwords, it has essntially no original finish left on it.