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Winchester 1897

luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
edited February 2007 in Ask the Experts
Hello, I am new to the forum and hope someone can help. I just picked up another model 97 take down and the top of the reciever on this one is matted. Haven't seen this. The slide is marked model 97 the serial # dates it 1940. From what i have read matted recievers where on trap models but the bolt is not marked trap thank's Gary

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  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a winchester 97 serial#413201 with a two barrel set 32 inch full and a 26 inch improved cylinder...what would the value be?
  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Got a Winchester 1897 my dad brought back from Korea. (He was in WWII in the Pacific also, but I don't believe he had this then). Serial Number 953***. Got the GHD stamp on the stock. Pretty good condition. No rust, but a little "tarnished." Also, the pump handle wood forestock is gone. I have a replacement I ordered, but can't figure out how to get the damn thing on. Any idea where I can find a fieldstriping manual for this thing, or any easy way to get the forestock on?
    These things seem to sell for a fair price, but I really want to keep it. Probably need to take it to a gunsmith to clean up, etc.
    Any comments or suggestions?
  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    hello,

    i became a 16 GA winchester shotgun in quiet nice condition.
    some parts are missing, but i hope you can help me out!
    it is a model 1897 early serial (matching) build in 1898.

    the trigger guard and trigger are missing and i guess some screws on the receiver as well.

    does anyone had a good partslist with pictures?

    thx
  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How long did they build the 1897 shot gun. I seen a add on Gun Broker that had one built in 1940
  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Would like some information on Winchester 1897 sn# 306148.
    Full choke, knob pistol grip, steel buttplate.
    This piece is heavily engraved with engraving on the receiver, barrel and trigger guard. The wood isn't checkered but looks original.
    Any help on value and year produced appreciated.
    Thanks
  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am inheriting a few shotguns from a relative. A Remington 870 Wingmaster, an early Mossberg 500, and perhaps the coolest, a Winchester 1897.

    I do not have any info on the gun, but was just curious if there were any serial number ranges in which there were issues with the design being reliable or safe. Most likely this gun will only see some light clay busting activities, but perhaps might see some fair weather hunting.
  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This question is for Bert H. I am looking at a Win 1897 30" full choke with serial number 170692. Can you tell me DOM?
  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i just picked up a model 97, serial # 169709. it's in very good shape. can anyone tell me about how old it is?

    gun control is not about guns, it is about CONTROL!
  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi, Hopeing someone can tell me when my Winchester mod 97 was made?. Its Ser# 4167XX !2 gauge. Thanks
  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i am trying to sell a model 1897 for a co-worker. everyone asks for the serial numbers on barrel and receiver. the numbers i have on the gun and has been verified by more than 1 person is LL2259 both match. on the receiver the letter C appears above it. any help would be appreciated.

    mike
  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Model 1897 that I just picked up , accrding to the info I have found serial number date goes around 1904-1905 , it looks to have standard steel barrel, my question is, can it shoot modern style shells or do they have to be B.P. shells? Same thing with the 16 gauge Newport I also picked up? I understand that that gun(s) has extremely long shirt tail, with Crescent Arms .Both Shotguns are an very good shape and tight actions , just unsure of what loads are safe. I will take to Gunsmith next week to have them looked at . Thanks for any help.

    Kory
  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I own an 1897 Black Diamond trap,
    It has straight checked stock, small old style checked foreend, 12 ga, 30" bbl,solid ribbed, with matted receiver. The breech bolt is marked "Trap Gun".

    My question is: Do all 1897 trap guns include the matted receiver?


    Thanks
  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Without having it researched by the Cody Firearms Museum (CFM), it was most likely manufactured in 1901, possibly 1902. The fortunate thing, is you can have it researched or factory lettered.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Forgot to mention... it should have a "C" above the serial number on the receiver. Is it a Takedown or a Solid frame?

    WACA Historian & Life Member

  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It does have the "C" and is a solid frame.
  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by luv_the_huskers
    It does have the "C" and is a solid frame.


    Thanks. When evaluating that old gun, it is important to inspect the slide handle. The 3-screw design was notorious for developing stress cracks.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

  • luv_the_huskersluv_the_huskers Member Posts: 277 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As always, the sagest of advice from Bert....
  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by luv_the_huskers
    As always, the sagest of advice from Bert....


    Thanks... but I would prefer to call it "erudite" advice[:D]

    WACA Historian & Life Member

  • STTHSTTH Member Posts: 101 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    On the subject of 1897's I have one that has 2 different #'s the one on the reciever, below a "C" is a 219xxx and on the piece directly ahead of the reciever is a 76xxx #. can someone age and explain this?
  • ahanksterahankster Member Posts: 253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There were many, many 97s made. It was not an uncommon practice to have something happen to either the reciever end, or the barrel assembly and have a mix-matched gun. On the take down models, the serial number appears in two places, on the bottom of the barrel/mag tube band and on the bottom of the reciver. So, if you have different serial numbers, somebody at some point put a different front end on your gun.
    Hank
  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As ahankster pointed out, you have a mismatched piece parts gun. The front end of the gun (barrel assembly) serial number 76K was made in 1899. The receiver end of the gun (serial 219K) was made circa late 1903.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

  • STTHSTTH Member Posts: 101 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the info, it is a good tight gun and still gets a little action every now and then.
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