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WWII Rifles Found!
Rustygoblue
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I have recently found three Rifles two of which I can ID the other I'm still searching for. Can anyone help with the value of either of the first two and maybe point me in the right direction for the third. The First Rifle is a... Remington Model 30 Express chambered in 30 cal. and is in average condition with some minor oxidation and the obvious bumps and dings on the stock of a seventy year old. The Second Rifle is a... German Kar98 with all the Nazi Stampings in place including the Manufacturer stamp of BYF. The 98 is operational but very beat up.
The Third Rifle's markings are as follows.
There is.......................T C
With a Star between.......*
The letters.................AS FA
The letters................ANK ARA
The name..................K. KALZ
The Date....................1942
And there is a Crescent Moon In a smiling position between the AS/ANK and FA/ARA and located under the T/C and Star. This rifle bares a similar profile to the Kar98. Thank you for any help you can give me.
The Third Rifle's markings are as follows.
There is.......................T C
With a Star between.......*
The letters.................AS FA
The letters................ANK ARA
The name..................K. KALZ
The Date....................1942
And there is a Crescent Moon In a smiling position between the AS/ANK and FA/ARA and located under the T/C and Star. This rifle bares a similar profile to the Kar98. Thank you for any help you can give me.
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As the previous poster noted, the Remington is a commercial rather then a military rifle. My reference has Remington making them for a short period of time only, starting in the mid 20's. It MIGHT be chambered for the .30 Remington cartridge, rather then the more common 30-06? If it's factory original, very good cosmetic condition? Potentially it could be the most valuable of the three?
"K. KALZ" is K. KALE, that is an "e" not a "z"
8mm Mauser. These are well made rifles. If the bore is in good shape you may have a good shooter, and a great hunting rifle.
This rifle in real good shape might bring $150, or more likely $100.
Neal
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Here is a little information about the Remington Model 30:
Remington's first bolt-action centerfire sporting rifle, the Model 30, was introduced in 1921 in .30-06 only. Nothing more or less than a commercial version of the 1917 Enfield military rifle that Remington had built for Uncle Sam during World War I, the Model 30 was upgraded and renamed the Model 30 Express in 1926. It was offered in a number of grades ranging from the No. 30A Standard, which sold for $59.95, to the No. 30F Premier with its sky-is-the-limit price tag. In addition to Remington's rimless family of cartridges in .25, .30, .32, and.35 calibers, the Model 30 was also available in .257 Roberts, 7x57mm Mauser, and .30-06. The Model 30 never sold very well, mainly due to its weight and homely looks, and in 1941 it was replaced by a more streamlined version called the Model 720.
Model 30 Express
Description: Bolt Action Rifle
Introduction Year: 1926
Year Discontinued: 1940
Total Production: Approximately: 22,800
Designer/Inventor: C.H. Barnes, C.C. Loomis
Action Type: Bolt Action
Caliber/Gauge: .30-06 Springfield, .25 Rem, .30 Rem, .32 Rem, .35 Rem, 7mm Mauser, .257 Rem-Roberts
Serial Number Blocks: Starting: 00001
Ending: 30560
Grades Offered:
30 Express
30S Special
30SL Special
30SR Redfield sight
30SX
30SM Marble-Glass Receiver Sight
Variations:
Model 30R Carbine
This is a bulletin board/forum run by the Remington Society:
http://www.remingtonsociety.com/phpBB2/
And the Home page:
http://www.remingtonsociety.com/
Best.
The year would be 1941 and later.
The important thing is the other numbers. The Germans numbered everything including the screws to each gun.
They also had inspector markings called "Waffenamts". They are tiny eagles with the WA + number under the eagle.
Yours would likely all be WA135, or should be.
They will be on the butt plate, the barrel bands, on each bolt part, everything.
That is, of course, if this is an all matching Kar98k.
If it is a Russian capture gun it will have various numbers on each part.
An all matching Kar98 would be worth $500.00 in bad shape (but not damaged) and $700-1,000.oo in good shape depending on details.
Wulfmann
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
I have recently found three Rifles two of which I can ID the other I'm still searching for. Can anyone help with the value of either of the first two and maybe point me in the right direction for the third. The First Rifle is a... Remington Model 30 Express chambered in 30 cal. and is in average condition with some minor oxidation and the obvious bumps and dings on the stock of a seventy year old. The Second Rifle is a... German Kar98 with all the Nazi Stampings in place including the Manufacturer stamp of BYF. The 98 is operational but very beat up.
The Third Rifle's markings are as follows.
There is.......................T C
With a Star between.......*
The letters.................AS FA
The letters................ANK ARA
The name..................K. KALZ
The Date....................1942
And there is a Crescent Moon In a smiling position between the AS/ANK and FA/ARA and located under the T/C and Star. This rifle bares a similar profile to the Kar98. Thank you for any help you can give me.
It's a neat looking rifle, but the trigger is not good action is not smooth. I've been thinking of getting in rechambered for a .308, but after all that trouble it's still just a nostalga thing, and I would rather invest in a modern rifle.
James