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M1 Garand

AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
edited December 2007 in Ask the Experts
I just got a correct grade M1 from CMP. I don't know a whole lot about them, I field stripped it and cleaned it by using the instructions included. Everything looks great. I was wondering though, the instruction say I should have it looked over by an experienced gunsmith before firing. Is this just a c.y.a. statement, aren't these rifles headspaced and test fired? Thanks, John
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just purchased my first Springfield M1 Garand at a gun show. It is an arsenal rebuild and I probably paid too much for it. but it is a piece of history. The action is dated 1942 and the barrel is 1950. The stock on the riffle is UGHY Beach or Burch and needs to be replaced. My question is should I look for an old military stock w/proof marks and cartouches or just find one from Gunparts or Boyds? If someone knows where to find a military at a good price let me know?
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Would it be easier to build a garand or to by one?
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looking for a source to researh serial a M1 Garand serial number. The serial number is 11815 if anyone has the info handy. Thanks

    shenandoahbiz@aol.com
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What number would represent excessive "throat errosion" in an M1 Garand? ie what is "unusable?"
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can anyone please tell me what an A stamp on a garand stock means?There are no other markings on the stock and the serial number dates it to February 1945.
    Thanks for the help
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have been thinking of purschasing an m1 garand through the CMP. I have hear that commerical ammunition can damage the m1 rifle over time. I don't reload. My question is what kind of commerical ammunition can I use in the m1? I am thinking of using it for hunting and for target shooting. I am aware that you can purschase military ammo from the CMP and would think about doing this. I just want to make sure that I can purschase ammo that is safe from another source in case the CMP's ammo dries up. Also, any comments on the CMP m1 rifles would be apreciated. Thanks for the replies!
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Was the M1 Garand produced only in semi-auto or was there a selectfire full auto version?
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am thinking about buying a M1 Garand, Winchester, #1237132.

    Would appreciate it if anybody can provide date of manufacture.

    Thanks

    BE QUICK - BE DEADLY!!!
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can any one help me to decipher the markings on an M1 garand?I understand in order to place a proper value on it I must first understand these. Direction to a website covering this topic would be great.
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Friend has a Nat Ord M1 garand. Some parts look GI others look new manufactured. IE barrel, receiver, etc. When were these made and by who? Thanks.
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looked at and M1 Garand today that I know very little about that was at a local flea market for $350.00. The receiver said made in USA by C. A. I. The woman that was selling it said that it was in good working order. The stock didn't have any cracks in it and didn't look to awful rough. I noticed it looked like it had a new barrel on it, but the receiver didn't look new. Also didn't see any numbers that matched on different parts. What else should I look for on these guns and what would be price range. I don't have a clue about these, but would like to learn more. Also I feel like a person could easily get a good burning on these if they don't know what to look for and what companies made them.
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have an old m1 Garand the receiver says US Rifle cal 30 m1 Springfeild Armory but the barrel says Blue Sky/Alexandria VA. I was just curious as to what it is and what it might be worth. This was acquired many years back and I have never messed with it. The other day one of my buddies asked me about it and we saw the two different names and thought it might be a "kit" gun but that thing is old I know it hasn't been fired in over 17 years "I have never shot it"[:I] thanks for your help kevin
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Going to look at a M1 Garand tomorrow and aside from the obvious (bore, metal, wood) what should I look for? Low serial number which I was told by person here year of mfg. Given a site to visit but aol went kaput and lost it. Realizing from previous post that serial numbers probably will not match I do not know where to go from just an overall look. Thanks for any assistance you can give me.

    Franko fpateconner@aol.com
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello. Does anyone know what a excellend condition International Harvester M1 Garand is worth. I am about to put it up for auction. Thanks
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi, I'm looking at a winchester m-1 #1605xxx, barrel is mint. a couple of internal parts don't match serial numbers. stock is very good and not refinished. reifle has a weld mark on top and underneath just in front of the receiver. Someone told me that this would indicate that it was a Ntl.guard rifle and they did this to them before issueing them out to the vfw's. Any ideas? Valuation.
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can a M1 Garand be converted into say a M1C or M1D or even a M1A or M14 because of the similarities in these rifles seems to me it could be possible but i'm no expert, anyone?
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A friend has a US Rifle Cal. 30 M1 Springfeild Armory Ser# 1990454, Blue Sky Production stamped on the barrel and on the box it was in. The receiver and the barrel looks alot newer than the wood on the gun. Any info on this M1 would be helpful, who is Blue Sky Production and what would it be worth. Thank you P.S. what are these guns selling for, ballpark.
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guy, I have a M 1 Garand that the serial numbers start 283--- I would like to find out alittle bit about it. and its value.the receiver and all parts are 90 percent along with the barrel. but the guy put an after market garand stock on.. it has the original fore stock and hand guard. it is in 30-06. please help I find garand in the blue book but can not tell exactly what it is. Thanks Steve
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I heard that Springfield was going to permanently stop making the M1 Garand. Has anyone else heard this? I also just bought the M1 Garand Iwo Jima limited edition model, of which there were to be 1,945 made. I understand that they haven't been able to finish making the 1,945 because of difficulty getting parts.
    Any thoughts??[:(]
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    One of my local sporting goods store has a M1 Garand for sale on consignment. They are asking $600.
    It is an International Harvester with the correct LMR barrel.
    Serial number 449XXXX. Maunfactured in 1953 if I am correct.
    Bore dirty but can be cleaned in my opinion. Wood dinged but not excessive. Metal actually decent for the most part with no rust or pitting to the naked eye. It appears to cycle without any problems.
    Now the hitch, it has an import mark on the barrel just under the front sight. It is very light and, in fact, cannot be read easily even with my reading glasses. However, it is there.
    So, should I ignore the import mark or keep looking? I will be buying a M1 Garand as part of a collection as the time presents itself.
    Based on the value of this rifle, does the import mark really affect the collection value for the future that much?
    Any and all comments a welcome.
    Thanks
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is there any kind of parts kit that will alow you to change this rifle from 30-06 to .308? Thanks
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    can an M1 grand be converted to an M1A1,
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good evening gentlemen/ladies, Could someone please let me know if a Springfield Armory M1 Garand manufactured in 1942 is considered a Curio& Relic? Thanks ahead of time.[:D]

    It's me again, what does "original configuration" mean? (The rifle has "rack" markings on the stock, the handguard has been replaced, it doesn't seem to have any aftermarket additions etc. Thanks. [:p]
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey everyone-

    Im going to be buying a M1 garand soon but i dont know a whole lot about the different brands/makes out there. I know springfield makes a nice one thats very accurate, but they run about 1000 bucks. i was wondering if there are any other quality makes out there, and are any of them cheaper? I want a reliable, accurate rifle, so i dont want to get one of the cheap parts guns unless they are good quality.

    Also, for anyone who owns one of these, how accurate are they with typical ball ammo? What kind of groups should i expect from the one i buy?

    Thanks in advance for any input!
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe someone could help answer this question. Many years ago I picked up a Winchester model M1 Garand in a trade. The barrel is tack welded to the reciever and the gas plug was also tack welded and the plug was drilled out. I assume to make it a non semi auto. Why would this have been done? The previous owner knew nothing about the gun nor do I.I have never fired it and never will but would be interested in learning about why the tack welding was done.
    Thanks Andy.
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is an M1 Garand for sale at my local gun shop... The wood and metal is in mint condition, he said that it was an American Legion practice rifle, asking $1100... my concern with it is it doesn't have the springfield mark on it... on the side it says M-1 rifle cal 30-06... made in the USA by CAI Georgia, VT, serial number M1P22751... Any information on the rifle or the value of it would be greatly apperiated
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is there anyway you can tell from the markings the year of manufacture?
    Thanks!
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What bayonet and scabbard would be correct for a SA October 1944 M1Garand.
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    IM looking to buy a M1 Garand, preferably a WWII one, so what manufacture would be the best to chose? It seems most of them got rebarreled for the Korean War, what would be a reasonable price for a good to very good condition model?

    Alan
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just bought one and now have the question - aside from one at a time is there any way to easily load the clips?
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm new to M1's. What's the meaning of "Blue Sky/Arlington, Va." on the barrel?
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  • AJC1970AJC1970 Member Posts: 37 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hey guys, help me out here, i have two local gunshops in town that are both selling springfield m1,s in 308, they both claim to only have one each, and both are unfired. one has a 1499.00 price tag, and the other has 1599.00 on it. since i am looking to buy one, i was wondering about the price. they say all parts are springfield except for the top over barrel, it seems to be a tan color plastic. any ideas on this being a good purchase for a shooter and future collectable?
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  • FrogbertFrogbert Member Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why don't you get yourself a real Garand.

    http://www.odcmp.com/
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  • Wehrmacht_45Wehrmacht_45 Member Posts: 3,377
    edited November -1
    Since the new ones suck, it wont break my heart. I got a CMP one thats a better shooter for 350 bucks
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wouldn't be surprised if Springfield Inc stopped making them. But, I believe it would be due to low sales, not difficulty getting parts. When USGI parts for any gun run out, Springfield Inc contracts with other companies to make repro parts, just as they did with the receiver, barrel, stock, & handguards of the rifle you bought.

    Why the [:(]? You got yours under the wire. Enjoy it.

    Neal
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  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Right now there are good prices on parts kits and a lot of Garands for sale at good prices. The posts you read right now that lead you to beleive there are no parts or Garands have a vested intrested in keeping the prices high.


    Emmett
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  • reindeerreindeer Member Posts: 129 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I see garands, lots of them being offered for sale, and they are offered at 800-1200 dollars. These are nice shooters. Gone are the days of the 175 dollar DCM rifle. But now, they are around and not relegated to the CMP and gun shows. I think it is great and if someone who is not a gunshow * can have one that is safe to shoot and a real connection to WWII and Korea. Go out and get a real one. Shoot it. Buy some SR-1, SR-21, and MR-31 targets so that at 100 yards you can shoot at simulate 200, 300 and 600 yard fire. reindeer
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  • jimthompson502002jimthompson502002 Member Posts: 96 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Springfield Armory, Incorporated--the firm in Illinois, nothing
    whatsoever to do with the former United States Armory--quit making their cast M1 Garand copies more than two years ago. They may still
    assemble some specialty items if they see enough profit it it. But no new receivers have been made for at least that long. The reason is partly the real Garands coming from the CMP, and also
    reflects other rather stern realities, such as the fact that some of their former suppliers no longer do business with them. They ceased releasing their old design barrels, which were excellent, about 2002-2003, and no longer sell their "new" design barrels with the extra flat except with major in-house upgrades. They also ceased M1 receiver production back in the late 80's to the mid 1990's, when there were high-quality imports on the market at very low prices.
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