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Saiga 12

gymratgymrat Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
edited April 2011 in Ask the Experts
Does anyone think the Saiga 12 will get Banned?
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  • gymratgymrat Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi i was wondering if anyone knew if the Saiga-12 was avaible with the standard military pistol grip and fixed stock (ala the Ak-74) or if that is somehow illegal now since the assualt-type rifle ban?thanks BuckP.s Anyone know where one of this style could be found?
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  • gymratgymrat Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thinking about leaning into one of these Russian shotguns? Can anyone assist in the direction that will save me the most money? I like the AK action. THanks for any help Mike
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  • gymratgymrat Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd like a SAIGA 12 guage, but I live in Connecticut. The Assault Weapons ban here lists specific models of weapons including Street Sweepers and the USAS-12, as well as a vague listing of "AK-47-type". Since a shotgun is not a rifle, is it only wishful-thinking on my part that their definition does not include the SAIGA shotguns, or am I on a fast track to becoming a felon?

    If anyone knows where I can go to get a definitive answer I would really appreciate it. The other possibility is considering another magazine-fed 12 guage since there is no reference in the law. Any ideas?

    Thanks,

    Fitz
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  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why would they want to ban it...they don't work 75% of the time as it is. Those that do work, most likely have had lots of work done to them along the way.

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  • joshmb1982joshmb1982 Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    who says they dont work? ive never had any trouble from mine. and most of the ammo ive put through it was older short brass #8 shot loads. it cycled fine for the 100 or so rds of that crap ive shot through it so far.
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  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My 3 have always worked

    And yes, I think the JBTs at the BATFE will ban them.

    CP
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  • claysclays Member Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The opinion that they do not work must be from someone that does not own one. I have 4 that are bone stock original and with 12rnd mags and 20rnd drums they are all flawless.
    Yes, I believe it is already on the endanged species list. Will probably wind up as the street sweeper did.
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  • NOAHNOAH Member Posts: 9,690
    edited November -1
    i have one in 410 ga. and it works great. built by Arsenal , looks just like a AK 47 it even has a bayonet lug[:0][:D][8D]. it is a AK and they all work greatquote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    Why would they want to ban it...they don't work 75% of the time as it is. Those that do work, most likely have had lots of work done to them along the way.

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  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    TSR

    How many do you own and shoot??

    CP
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  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cpermd
    TSR

    How many do you own and shoot??

    CP


    I have owned two of them. I actually purchased two at the same time, as I really like my AK's...not as well as the AR's though. I couldn't get either of them to function with everything I wanted, including low brass, light target loads(actually that was the problem...they were not even low brass...they were like tin. But anyway, the only real advantage I seen in them was as a defense gun with buckshot or slugs, and the very quick mag changes.

    I don't know Chuck, perhaps I just need to run them a little more, but I was impatient, and had someone who wanted to pay me double of what I had into them. Yes I did tell him about the problem.

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  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    An outright ban for possession....no.
    Ban the importation of any more....possible.
    Change the classification to a destructive device, and make you PAY for a stamp....
    well.....that is what they have done before with shotguns.

    Oh, and mine have ran flawlessly.
    Low brass, high brass, slugs, whatever I have put in.
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  • vicg1vicg1 Member Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pickenup
    An outright ban for possession....no.
    Ban the importation of any more....possible.
    Change the classification to a destructive device, and make you PAY for a stamp....
    well.....that is what they have done before with shotguns.

    Oh, and mine have ran flawlessly.
    Low brass, high brass, slugs, whatever I have put in.


    no, there was a free stamp for the others reclassified as DD's... just had to do it within 90 days...
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