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8mm HK Carcano Rarity?
PBking51
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I was recently contemplating selling a carcano that was handed down to me by a family member. Its in my name and when i started reading on them I figured I better take up an offer for $100 while I had the chance. I notciced some markings on it, so I decided to do some research. I found about 3 articles that have me really excited!! The inside of the barrel is very clean an no pitting, there a crack on the rear of the stock but it seems to be clean and is not loose(repair?). Also, there is very little rust on it. Can someone tell me what model Carcano I have and info about it and its history? Any Idea on Value?
Whats stamped on the gun (had to use phone to take the picture and the close ups didnt show anything):
"Cal 6,5" (stamped on rear sight)
"R.E. Terni" and a crown behind the rear sight top of rear barrel
"7,9" on very rear of barrel on top
(serial number) "H 6763" on left side of rear barrel
"1941 XIX" and "FC" on rear of barrel right side
Nazi Eagle stamped underneath the year
"HK" in a circle stamped on top of the reciever close to barrel
(serial number) "H 6763" stamped on left of reciever (H is a tad higher than numbers)
The RE Terni Crown is on the knob of the bolt
There is a wooden block that seems to match the stock in the chamber making it single shot
Note:
*There is some sort of symbol partailly covered by the stock underneath the first set of serial numbers on left of barrel
*There is a set of funky symbols mixed with the numbers 3 and 2 (???)
*There is a little symbol above the serial number on the reciever, it is clear but I have no idea what it is
*There are numbers on the rear of the stock, but it is hard to make them out
Pictures: (Again, i can not get clear close ups of markings at this time using my phone)
Whats stamped on the gun (had to use phone to take the picture and the close ups didnt show anything):
"Cal 6,5" (stamped on rear sight)
"R.E. Terni" and a crown behind the rear sight top of rear barrel
"7,9" on very rear of barrel on top
(serial number) "H 6763" on left side of rear barrel
"1941 XIX" and "FC" on rear of barrel right side
Nazi Eagle stamped underneath the year
"HK" in a circle stamped on top of the reciever close to barrel
(serial number) "H 6763" stamped on left of reciever (H is a tad higher than numbers)
The RE Terni Crown is on the knob of the bolt
There is a wooden block that seems to match the stock in the chamber making it single shot
Note:
*There is some sort of symbol partailly covered by the stock underneath the first set of serial numbers on left of barrel
*There is a set of funky symbols mixed with the numbers 3 and 2 (???)
*There is a little symbol above the serial number on the reciever, it is clear but I have no idea what it is
*There are numbers on the rear of the stock, but it is hard to make them out
Pictures: (Again, i can not get clear close ups of markings at this time using my phone)
Comments
EDIT :I have only cursory knowledge of the Italian military guns but I am not sure Heckler and Koch existed at that time. The hole you speak of in the end of the stock should be the cleaning rod hole where the stock was cut part way down the channel. Looks like the metal is unscrewed with so that's a plus? Did you have an auction number where one of these went for $750? I would be interested in seeing that and would happily stand corrected.
EDIT: heres the link I found with auction number
http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/topic/23530/t/Need-info-on-Carcano-Carbine-in-8mm-Mauser.html
heres the link I got some info from
HK as in Heirich Kreigoff (spelling)
I would hang on to it and get a true evaluation of what it was. I read the links you posted and it indeed sounds like you have a Heinrich Krieghoff. The question then is, "Was it further sporterized?" You would have to see an example of one that did go for the several hundred dollars mentioned in that post.
Also of note regarding that link. Back in '07 when it was posted, prices for a lot of 'potentially collectable' firearms were on the rise. Stuff that had languished for years all of a sudden had doubled in price. Since, '08 and the economy collapsing, the artificially high prices of a lot of these firearms dropped considerably. When I compare this rifle to the 'last ditch' '98's that were produced in early 1945, I think you may have a whole rifle there. For the longest time, you could buy whole, good quality Mausers for $29.95-$79.95 at local firearms shops or hardware stores. Once the supply dried up, the prices went up. And the 'last ditch' rifles that couldn't be given away now had a value on them. Your rifle appears to be in that category. My first impulse was to dismiss it. Then I read your link and thought about the 'last ditch' rifles and I say at this point, slow down and see what it really is. It might well be worth something.
Tom