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pen gun

SCPO RICESCPO RICE Member Posts: 161 ✭✭✭
edited April 2011 in Ask the Experts
I have a 25acp American derringer pen gun. The breech block is broken. Split down middle. Can it be fixed,or welded? What would the value be as a parts gun? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks







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  • SCPO RICESCPO RICE Member Posts: 161 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Need some GOOD ADVICE on this item. I believe the cartridges with this pen gun are tear gas, is this thing legal to own and / or sell ?
    http://photobucket.com/PENGUNTEARGAS
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  • SCPO RICESCPO RICE Member Posts: 161 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, my cell phone gun forum was locked up, why? i dont know but it was. So now i have something new to get your opinions about. The .44 cal 'Pen Gun' It fires a single .44 cal round. By un screwing mid way you can insert the round. I have a site with pictures.

    http://www.adrax.com/watsons/pengun.htm

    Let me know what you think, and also, the reasoning behind 'locking' a forum. Thanks


    S.K.
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  • SCPO RICESCPO RICE Member Posts: 161 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am trying to find out anything about a pen gun that I have. The only markings on it are on the shirt clip with the words PENGUN on it.Under the word is the old Penguin ammo logo. The gun currently has a spent tear gas cartridge in it with a date of Jan. 1969. The gun itself is a simple design of a slit cut in the side of the pen casing and you just have to pull back and release to fire the gun. Any info would be helpfull
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  • SCPO RICESCPO RICE Member Posts: 161 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How much is a Pen Gun with the markings: Fed. Lab Inc. Pgh Pa
    Pat. Dec 29th 1925
    I think it shoots a .38 caliber
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There might be legal problems with selling this pen gun, if it is able to chamber a conventional .38 caliber cartridge. Many of the early production, pen gun type, tear gas dispensers used standard .38 revolver cartridges loaded with tear gas compound. These are no longer legal per the feds. Use caution prior to selling, to keep yourself out of a jam.
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  • SCPO RICESCPO RICE Member Posts: 161 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am wrong about this being a gun, I looked up one on {elsewhere} and it sounds like it may be a gas baton used in WWII, do you know the value?
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  • fordsixfordsix Member Posts: 8,554 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    what you have is the federal labs gas billy used in prisons and such small 38 cal hole in end but really used a special tear gas round in the 25mm calibur..shells are very rare to find i have only seen 1 in 30 years,,you could give the prisnor a head bump or shoot the gas the only problem with them was the small exit port caused the gas to expel with force not only gassing the rioters but giving the shooter some of it to there are some on the auction side time to time i have seen them new in the boxes..pretty much out of use after ww2 ,,alcatraze gun locker inventory had a few on hand
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fordsix
    what you have is the federal labs gas billy used in prisons and such small 38 cal hole in end but really used a special tear gas round in the 25mm calibur..shells are very rare to find i have only seen 1 in 30 years,,you could give the prisnor a head bump or shoot the gas the only problem with them was the small exit port caused the gas to expel with force not only gassing the rioters but giving the shooter some of it to there are some on the auction side time to time i have seen them new in the boxes..pretty much out of use after ww2 ,,alcatraze gun locker inventory had a few on hand



    I don't believe what Scpo Rice described in his first post is a gas billy. I have seen them both, and the pen sized tear gas dispensers are much smaller in size. Though larger then the fountain pens in common use at that time.
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  • hrfhrf Member Posts: 857 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://www.gun-data.com/fautlesspingun.php
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  • SCPO RICESCPO RICE Member Posts: 161 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is probobaly a tear gas pen
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  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by SCPO RICE
    The picture provided by HRF is the exact item I have, It looks like a pen and is about the length of a dollar bill. Do you know the value, Thanks for the help, Jeff

    Unless already registered with BATF, current "value" is a $250,000 fine and 10 years in "Club Fed".
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  • fordsixfordsix Member Posts: 8,554 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    they sell them on fleabay time to time just watch the auctions
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