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Colt Artillery Model SAA?
IK377
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Hello,
I have a gun and have been trying to gather some info on this. I would appreciate any help you can provide.
From my searching, I believe I have a type of Colt U.S. Artillery gun.
Here is some info. I haven't taken any pictures, yet.
1. On the top of the barrell, all I can make out is the letters
H A M. There may be something before it and after it, but I can't make it out.
2. On one side of the metal plating is:
PAT Sept 19 1871
July 2. -72.
Jan 19. -75.
US (is next to these dates on the right of them, by the (3)screws)
3. On one side of the wood grip is the "cursive" letter RAC, which are engraved within a square box.
4. On the other side of the wood grip is:
1902 (underneath this is)
OCH engraved in cursive letters within a box
5. On the side of gun chamber is the numbers: 9498
6. On the underneath near the barrell is the numbers
W
49406
7. On the next part is:
6069
A (with a small capital A underneath this number)
8. On the bottom of the handle is:
208
350
9. R.A.C. is engraved in the wood vertically by those numbers)
That's all I can include at the moment.
Thank you.
I have a gun and have been trying to gather some info on this. I would appreciate any help you can provide.
From my searching, I believe I have a type of Colt U.S. Artillery gun.
Here is some info. I haven't taken any pictures, yet.
1. On the top of the barrell, all I can make out is the letters
H A M. There may be something before it and after it, but I can't make it out.
2. On one side of the metal plating is:
PAT Sept 19 1871
July 2. -72.
Jan 19. -75.
US (is next to these dates on the right of them, by the (3)screws)
3. On one side of the wood grip is the "cursive" letter RAC, which are engraved within a square box.
4. On the other side of the wood grip is:
1902 (underneath this is)
OCH engraved in cursive letters within a box
5. On the side of gun chamber is the numbers: 9498
6. On the underneath near the barrell is the numbers
W
49406
7. On the next part is:
6069
A (with a small capital A underneath this number)
8. On the bottom of the handle is:
208
350
9. R.A.C. is engraved in the wood vertically by those numbers)
That's all I can include at the moment.
Thank you.
Comments
pistol [:D] Don't get your hopes up but with proof it would be worth BIG BUCKS[^]. Now for the #3 type this could be a PARTS gun made to Deceive [:(!][V]The RAC on the grips are inspector marks but There are a lot of FAKES don't be taken in by a GREAT STORY ask yourself why is the barrel markings so bad if the grips are so much better. They did not put worn barrels on guns when they were rebuilt. all parts should show equal wear. We would love to see pictures.
Hello The Military had a number of pistols modified by both Colt and military armory's I sound like your pistol is either one of three types of pistols . #1 and the most valuable is one that was sent back to colt . I suspect your pistol is this type and a Colt letter would prove this. If it was rebuilt by Colt. The letter is fairly costly but would increase the value by much more then the cost of letter. # 2 is a pistol made up of parts that were not worn and then modified by Military armory. It may be a long shot but you could do some research and If Springfield has records on this pistol it MAY prove to be a Rough Rider
pistol [:D] Don't get your hopes up but with proof it would be worth BIG BUCKS[^]. Now for the #3 type this could be a PARTS gun made to Deceive [:(!][V]The RAC on the grips are inspector marks but There are a lot of FAKES don't be taken in by a GREAT STORY ask yourself why is the barrel markings so bad if the grips are so much better. They did not put worn barrels on guns when they were rebuilt. all parts should show equal wear. We would love to see pictures.
I appreciate your help. I have no idea if this is a fake or not. Hopefully it isn't! I don't think so... My father was a big gun collector all through the 50's 60's, probably even before that.
I guess if anything shady would have happened, it would have had to occur a long, long, time ago. I know nothing about firearms, but it was my father's hobby and passion and he was very knowledgeable, in regards to guns. I'm hoping things back then were more honest than maybe what you would encounter today. Who knows...
I charged up my camera and took some pictures. I could only get a couple decent shots. I definitely need a new camera, Hopefully, this will help you.
I'm really sorry.
JP
Regarding the parts gun, the six digit number on the butt is a civilian serial number. The barrel markings are not at all related to any known factory markings for a single action. As the other post indicated, there are many fake and repro marks. I've worked on dozens over the years. Also, over 100 were made up from part by a guy in Hartford in the late 1970's. He bought three drums of SA parts from the factory for scrap. I bought many small parts in the early 90's from him, but he stated he had built up over 150 militarys and had used many civilian parts to complete them. I have personally seen 7 of these mixed military/civilian parts guns. Your barrel may just be a home made job or have personal initials on it. See my site at www.davelanaracolts and email a shot if you can. Will buy for parts as well.
JP
I'm not looking to sell this, only info. This gun, as well as others types I inherited a few years ago, have been basically sitting in a safe since the early 60's, if not earlier.
As for it being a "homemade" job, nobody has had their hands on this gun, for many decades.
Just wanted to get a little more info on this particular firearm.
Dave
Dave
dave
Your current photos indicate that it is a reblue with possibly the original frame retaining original case color. I say reblue because of the soft edges and rounded screw holes. However, clear shots may change that opinion.
dave
I don't know what you mean by "it is a reblue with possibly..." But I'll take your word for it. I'm trying to learn more about this, guess baby steps.
It's getting late and my camera is not cooperating with me. I just can't seem to get a clear shot. This is the best I can do, for now.
If one of mods on the board thinks it will help, I'll try to get more shots. I was just curious about this gun, because I was having trouble figuring this one out.
Thanks for your help, too.
Ah, just saw the photos. Nice looking artillery, but are you sure about the barrel marking on the top? I have a list for the rough riders and will check, but doubt it; never know though.
Dave
Yes, I'm sure about the marking on the top middle of the barrel. I bought a magnifying glass and discovered them by accident. I never saw them with a nake eye. I definitely see an A and is sure looks like a little bit smaller H before it, and what possibly looks like an M, but the one side is worn. There's small markings something like this: ' ' ' ' H A M ' ' '', like little knicks or something. If
If it was put under a powerful lense, would be much easier to make out.
It was common years ago for people to reblue the blue parts when they were worn, but leave the color on the frame since it was more resiliant. You can send more photos to me at mr4440@aol.com as you get your camera to operate better. The gun does have some interesting features which we can discuss later.
Again, thanks for your input. If I post anymore pics, I prefer to keep them on this forum. I'm looking forward to see what others think of this as well.
Good night.