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sigma question
Azhunter
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i recently aquired a Sigma in .357 Sig. my understanding is that these are fairly rare? how much more valuable are they than the .40VE? course i know it's a Sigma so value is relative.
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Thanks, RCS
-The practice of carrying a semi-automatic gun with a loaded magazine in the well, but an empty chamber is sometimes called "Israeli Carry" out of a (mistaken) belief that its standard operating policy for Israeli soldiers to carry their guns this way. I know as a fact that Israeli cops on duty and military in combat zones carry with rounds in their chambers.
-Smith Sigma has an 8-10 pound (or so) trigger pull right of the box, which acts as its own safety, the same as the heavy trigger pull on a double-action revolver acts as a safety.
So in my opinion carrying a Sigma "Israeli style" this way is unnecessary, and in fact counterproductive.
For example: What if one of your hands is occupied (or injured) when you need your gun and you can't easily rack the slide?
There are plenty of other guns on the market that are striker-fired designs lacking external safeties (eg the Glock) and plenty of people carry them safely. Again, in my opinion, if you're uncomfortable carrying a gun without an external safety, then the "solution" is to find a gun WITH an external safety, not to carry your gun in what is effectively an unloaded state.
-Smith Sigma is effectively a clone of the Glock pistol. In fact the copy was so blatant that Glock sued Smith and Wesson over the copy and actually WON its suit. Like a Glock, the Sigma uses an internal striker design, and every trigger pull. . .by design. . .is the same as every other.
I've shot a Smith Sigma in .40, and apart from the irritatingly rough and heavy trigger pull, I didn't notice any difference in pull characteristics between the first and subsequent shots. My "guess" is that your friend simply isn't accustomed to shooting his pistol, and so every time he picks it up, it takes him a shot to get used to how obnoxious the trigger really is.
So my proposed solution to this problem (apart from breaking down the gun and cleaning it thoroughly) is for him to get a snap cap and dry fire the gun 1000 times in 150 shot sittings a day at a time over a week. That will a. wear in the action and help smooth the trigger pull somewhat, and b. get his finger accustomed to pulling the trigger.
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quote:Originally posted by rsnyder55
If I remember correctly, this practice was developed because of the number of different types of weapons the Isreali's had to use at the time. It was easier to train this way rather than have to take the different types of safeties different weapons used.
I didn't really want to get into it, but that's it, in a nutshell.
The original revolutionary Israeli army was cobbled together from various European immigrants, many or most of whom had zero prior experience with weapons. They were armed with whatever sundry weapons they could get their hands on, including hunting guns, stolen guns, WWII surplus guns, and guns literally cobbled together in garages (eg Stens, etc).
So the only way they could come up with a standardized safe way for training and carrying was for everyone to leave their chambers empty. It made perfect sense for those conditions and that time. But as a current doctrine for domestic American civilian concealed carry, I don't think it does.
Relevant to this, current Israeli military doctrine is that when in or near actual combat, or carrying a gun with anticipation that it might get used in a hurry (ie cop, guard, whatever), you keep a live round in the chamber with the safety on (if the gun has one) or the hammer down (if applicable for DA guns). Same as any other military.