C-Z's

wood_man

I looked at a c-z 82...picked one I liked out of 4 being offered. I like this pistol and am thinking of getting a new 75b in 9mm.

Are there better choices in a 9mm for around the same price? The one I found was NIB for $459.00

Thanks

llama

Good deal on a real CZ ...

However, for the same price you can get a clone of that pistol (EAA Witness) and a 22lr conversion kit... or convert it to 38 super, 40s&4, 10mm, or 45acp

beantownshootah

quote:Originally posted by wood_man
I looked at a c-z 82...picked one I liked out of 4 being offered. I like this pistol and am thinking of getting a new 75b in 9mm.

Are there better choices in a 9mm for around the same price? The one I found was NIB for $459.00

Thanks

First of all the CZ-75 and CZ-82, obviously, are totally different guns.

Are there better choices in a 9mm for the same price? Well, there are "other" choices. . .whether or not they are better is largely subjective. (Incidentally, I think that's probably a pretty good price for a NIB CZ gun).

There are lighter guns. There are guns with different controls/operating systems (ie pure single action, external decocker, no external safety at all, etc). There are guns with different sights. There are guns with different grip shapes. Etc.

It really comes down to personal preference. What features in a gun do you like, and how well does it shoot FOR YOU?

*MY* personal preference happens to be that the CZ-75 is my favorite of the "service" type 9mm lugers (by that I mean a full sized, full capacity gun, intended for police or military use). I prefer it to Beretta, Glock, Sig 226, and Smith autos.

Biggest reason is just that the gun is an absolute perfect "fit" for my hand, and points naturally for me (Beretta and SIG are too fat). I like the all steel design that soaks up recoil (though it also makes the gun a bit heavy for all day carry, say compared to the plastic-framed guns like a Glock). Ability to go "cocked and locked" is a plus for me, but may not be for someone else. I don't like a gun with no decocker or external safety. . .though many don't like a gun WITH an external safety! Again. . .personal preference.

On EAA Witness, the SMALL FRAME guns (which are no longer being imported into the USA) are the ones that are most size-comparable to the CZ-75. I have one of these older ones, and for the price they're quite good guns. The current EAA Witness guns (that you can convert to .38 Super, 10mm and .45ACP) use a larger frame that is more comparable to the CZ-97, intended for .45ACP.

As an aside, in addition to the EAA Witness (which is a great gun in its own right with easy caliber conversions), there are several other CZ-75 clones on the market now, with slightly different features and at slightly different price points: Armalite has one made in Turkey, and the Israeli "Jericho" 941 pistol is internally similar to a CZ with external decocker and polygonal rifling. The BUL "Cherokee" is basically another Israeli made clone, only using a polymer frame.

wood_man

The 82 got me to look into a full size C-Z and the 9 was because I have a carbine in a 9. I have a gov't size 45 with a .22 conversion and a marlin carbine soon to be delivered.

I think I will go with the C-Z but that witness sounds interesting...I don't currently have anything in a 10...or 38 super

Thanks for the info gentlemen

armilite

You should check into the EAA Witness a CZ75 clone and a good one. There are a bunch of them up for auction right here on GB for a buy it now price of $299. I have one in 38 Super and just love it.

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jeffb1911

My first duty gun was a CZ 85 in 9mm. Had the 22 kit with it, and shot the heck out of it. Everyone made fun of me until i started out shooting them. They are good to go IMNSHO. Mine probably has over 100K through it since ive had it. Purchased it in 93 IIRC.

wood_man

quote:buy it now price of $299

Well I got the C-Z...but man, that Witness looks like quite a deal.