What year was this Winchester 94 manufactured?

jebbar

Can anyone tell me what year this Winchester 94 was manufactured?

Winchester 94 in 30-30
SN 23796325

Thanks,

jebbar

Bert H.

You have too many digits in the serial number. While it is a fact that Winchester and U.S.R.A.Co. manufactured nearly 11 Million Model 1894/94s, they did not manufacture 23 Million of them. I will assume that the serial number on your Model 94 Sporting Carbine is actually in the 2 million range, but without knowing what the precise serial number is, all I can say is that it was manufactured sometime in the late 1950s to the late 1960s.

Horse Plains Drifter

I looked in http://armscollectors.com/sn/windates.htm and it is too new to be in their list. Their high sn is five million and change and thay say that number was made after 1982. Your number is a high 23 million so it must be pretty new.

I see Bert says they never even made 23 million '94s and that fella knows what he is talking about.

vdms55

hi bud......... i once read that any number on a 94 under 2,500,000 would make it a pre 64. hope this tid bit of info is helpful

turtles11756

any # under 2,700,000

Bert H.

Gentleman,

quote:vdms55... hi bud......... i once read that any number on a 94 under 2,500,000 would make it a pre 64. hope this tid bit of info is helpful

quote:turtles11756... any # under 2,700,000


Wrong on both accounts... the last pre-64 Model 94 bore serial number 2600011.

matwor

quote:Originally posted by Bert H.
Gentleman,

quote:vdms55... hi bud......... i once read that any number on a 94 under 2,500,000 would make it a pre 64. hope this tid bit of info is helpful

quote:turtles11756... any # under 2,700,000


Wrong on both accounts... the last pre-64 Model 94 bore serial number 2600011.


http://armscollectors.com/sn/winlookup.php

Something is ary. I'm not saying I know the answer, but some numbers aren't adding up.

Bert H.

quote:Originally posted by matwor
quote:Originally posted by Bert H.
Gentleman,

quote:vdms55... hi bud......... i once read that any number on a 94 under 2,500,000 would make it a pre 64. hope this tid bit of info is helpful

quote:turtles11756... any # under 2,700,000


Wrong on both accounts... the last pre-64 Model 94 bore serial number 2600011.


http://armscollectors.com/sn/winlookup.php

Something is ary. I'm not saying I know the answer, but some numbers aren't adding up.


Please read this topic... it should explain a few things for you -
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=211281&SearchTerms=Winchester

glabray

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vdms55... hi bud......... i once read that any number on a 94 under 2,500,000 would make it a pre 64. hope this tid bit of info is helpful

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turtles11756... any # under 2,700,000

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Wrong on both accounts... the last pre-64 Model 94 bore serial number 2600011.

Sadly, much about Winchester is not as cut-and-dried as some would like to believe. Certainly the pre-64 94s ended in the very low 2600000s but the 2600011 number is far from firm. We also know that post-64s were being turned out by the very low 2700000s. However, 94s with serial numbers between about 2590000 and about 2700000 are pretty scarce....some say non-existant. Given Winchester's long history of large serial number gaps, a 100000 numbers gap between the pre and post 64s would be easy to believe. That said, since Winchester also had a long history of not throwing away parts it would not be impossible to believe that there may be some overlaps or even hybrids out there to be discovered some day.

vdms55

firstly, bert. thanks for clarification. that makes my statement mostly a trueism. as i may have mentioned before, i hurt my brain some time ago casting lead bullets. most all my recolections are not hoyle.
secondly, turtles. i guess that makes me the winner. mostly.
thirdly,. any statment(s) made by me should, and are intended to be in the spirit of jocularity.

Bert H.

quote:Originally posted by glabray
Sadly, much about Winchester is not as cut-and-dried as some would like to believe. Certainly the pre-64 94s ended in the very low 2600000s but the 2600011 number is far from firm. We also know that post-64s were being turned out by the very low 2700000s. However, 94s with serial numbers between about 2590000 and about 2700000 are pretty scarce....some say non-existant. Given Winchester's long history of large serial number gaps, a 100000 numbers gap between the pre and post 64s would be easy to believe. That said, since Winchester also had a long history of not throwing away parts it would not be impossible to believe that there may be some overlaps or even hybrids out there to be discovered some day.


I suppose that I could or should have stated it a bit better...

2600011 is the highest confirmed pre-64 serial number as of this time. As for the theory of a possible 100,000 serial number gap... it simply is not the case or true. I have personally seen too many of them in the 2590000 - 2700000 serial number range. Madis was all too quick to claim there were serial number gaps in a number of different Winchester Models simply because he had not seen any of them, or because the factory ledgers contained gaps. For three of the models, I have positive evidence to the contrary (1885, 1886, and 1894).

kimi

I've seen a few myself above the 259 range, but still I would say they are somewhat scarce, especially when high condition is a consideration. My son sold one not long back with a 2596xxx serial. It waa a beauty.