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Best 357 for the price?

BenzBenz Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
edited October 2006 in Ask the Experts
I am going to give the gift of protection this xmas. Im not a revolver guy but my friend wants one. He want a 357. I was wondering whats a good 357 for the price. I was thinking of this one.


S&W Model 686 in 357 Mag NIB NR (SW686 38 38+)


i could use some advice.


thanks.
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  • Dak To 68Dak To 68 Member Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anyone I know would be more than satisfied with one of those as a gift. Fine piece.
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  • ClarentaviousClarentavious Member Posts: 800 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gotta be careful about buying guns for other people. In most states it isn't illegal to buy a gun and give it to someone who isn't prohibited from owning one... HOWEVER - there are some people out there just dying to catch a "straw buyer" , and throw them in jail.

    When you fill out your 4473 form, the first of the "yes or no" questions is whether you are the actual buyer of the gun. You can put yes, and still give it to him - but I certainly hope you know this guy well.

    I would be better to get him a gift certificate to the gun shop - if they offer them anyway. Then he can buy it himself.
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  • BenzBenz Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    whats a straw buyer?


    and its going in my name at first then im going to transfer it like 2 months later. im in california. i hope there wont be a problem with it.
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  • BenzBenz Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    and the guy im buying the gun for is like my father. so i know him real well.
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  • ClarentaviousClarentavious Member Posts: 800 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You have to be very careful about what you're doing in Cali. Especially in LA There's no state pre emption law in Cali (meaning cities and towns can pass tougher laws than state law). I imagine there's mandatory registration of guns.

    A straw buyer is someone who deliberately buys a gun for someone else who can't pass a background check. The person wishing to acquire the gun usually has a criminal record, and can't buy one from a gun store. So he hires someone to buy the gun for him - usually paying the person buying it for him a "favor fee"

    But if you're giving the gun to someone else, the ATF can try and make a case for straw buying. They usually have to prove that you knew the person you were giving it to was prohibited from owning guns (this isn't always because of a criminal conviction, it can be due to other things like drug abuse, illegal alien status, etc...) Normally this isn't a problem, but in Cali it might be.

    Actually, in Cali private sales may be illegal for all I know. So could giving a registered handgun to someone else. I'm just not sure. Best to check up on your state laws.

    I think you're better safe than sorry, but it's really up to you. I mean, it may not seem like as personal a gift, but you may just want to give the guy a $500 check with a little note enclosed saying "Go out and get yourself a .357"
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  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Benz- a "strawman buyer" is one who buys a guy, not with the intent of keeping the gun, but in reality buying the gun for someone else that cannot legally buy it. Does not affect a legitimate gift- meant to cover where A (who can't legally buy a gun) gives money to B, who buys gun, completing paperwork in his own name, and then B delivers gun to A. Now, that is from a Federal standpoint. I do not live in CA (thank you, Jesus!) so I do not know what STATE paperwork, if any, you have to deal with.
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  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    burn a copy of what you want to get him, wrap it up with a bundle of cash, give it to him, and then bring him down to the gun shop and let him fill out the papers.
    its legal now.
    you gave him a gift of cash. not a gun. its his now. he can do what he wants with it.[;)]
    high standard mk2 d.a. .357. 175.00. cant beat that.
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  • nards444nards444 Member Posts: 3,994 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ruger
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  • gap1916gap1916 Member Posts: 4,977
    edited November -1
    Back to your original question I vote for a Colt Trooper. [8D]
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  • sig232sig232 Member Posts: 8,018
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Clarentavious
    Gotta be careful about buying guns for other people. In most states it isn't illegal to buy a gun and give it to someone who isn't prohibited from owning one... HOWEVER - there are some people out there just dying to catch a "straw buyer" , and throw them in jail.

    When you fill out your 4473 form, the first of the "yes or no" questions is whether you are the actual buyer of the gun. You can put yes, and still give it to him - but I certainly hope you know this guy well.

    I would be better to get him a gift certificate to the gun shop - if they offer them anyway. Then he can buy it himself.



    Thats real good advice! I like the gift certificate idea. Then the friend can choose his own gun. Plus your name is not on the paperwork in case the gun is stolen and is a part of a crime and they come looking for you. Can get a bit messy.

    Any S&W 357 is a good choice depending, of course, what its use is intended to be for. Target work, defensive carry or simply a house protection gun. They have different models for different purposes.
    I am sure you are well aware of that.
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,482 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Given a choice of all .357's out there, I would go with a 4" 66 or 686.
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