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.45 ACP question

green milegreen mile Member Posts: 619 ✭✭✭
edited February 2007 in Ask the Experts
Good morning, I have started looking at getting a .45 ACP, but from what all I have read about 1911's, all but the Taurus has had to have gone to the gunsmith for fine tuning out of the box (or not too long after). I had a Glock 23 and did not like the snap of the .40 S&W while firing. I felt that it was a disrtaction and thus went to a 19 in 9mm (fits perfect). My question is what suggestions do you have for a general purpose (target, hd, etc.) .45 ACP full size weapon? As always, thank you for all of your responses, and have a great weekend.

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  • green milegreen mile Member Posts: 619 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is the barrel life of 5" barrel.
    Are other brands better than others.
  • green milegreen mile Member Posts: 619 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, I REALLY don't mean to start a flame war here. But I would like some objective opinions. I'm a old dog that hard to teach new tricks. I'd like to keep my few guns and ammunition simple, reliable and straight-forward. Ever since I was a kid I was raised to think the .45 caliber was the best all around bullet for self-defense. Since then I've seen 9mm +p, 10mm, .357 mag, 44 mag, 40 cal, 45 GAP, HPs, Hydroshocks, Fragmentable, and ad infinitum new pistol calibers and types appear. Now I don't know if my cherished beliefs about the 45 are just based on rhetoric, and if the .45 is being made obsolete by modern technology and research.

    Tell me, with all these new and or modified calibers, is the hoary-old 230 grain, FMJ hardball, .45 ACP, still a reliable man-stopper?

    Would it be foolish of me not to use HP's or other types of expanding rounds in a 45 caliber auto pistol for self-defense, even though with the potential of FTF's with these rounds? I really don't want to keep fussing with a auto pistol to make sure it's going to feed HP"S without hanging up.

    I know there is the danger of penetration using FMJ in a house, but other than that, will a 230 FMJ 45 do the job on a intruder as well or better than a HP/expandable round or as well as the newer calibers mentioned above?
  • brier-49brier-49 Member Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think you have that backwards, the Taurus is the dog,with a great warrantee that is needed.Between my son and I we have 2 Colts 1 SA 1 Paraordiance 2 Kimbers 2 Les Bears and a Remington-Rand. Except for the Rem-Rand all were new purchases,none have needed any work done,no jams no nothing wrong at all.We shoot bowling pins using all different kinds of ammo,including the Saeco 058 bowling pin bullet,it is almost square, neither of us has ever had any problems.
  • WillRussWillRuss Member Posts: 78 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you like Glocks and want a "less snappy" recoil of a 45, try the Glock 30. I tried approximately 20 pistols before I selected it as my favorite.

    Regarding 1911's, Kimber models are well known for being "perfect out of the box".
  • iwannausernameiwannausername Member Posts: 7,131
    edited November -1
    Basic Rock Island 1911. Got one a few weeks ago, put 200 rounds thru it, only issues were due to my lack of familiarity with centerfire pistols and user error - limp wristing or similar.

    If you get the "tactical" model, you probably won't need/want anything done - its got a beavertail grip safety, ejection port is opened up some, has adjustable sites. Should be able to get it for under $500.
  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    GM
    I'm not a 1911 guy (I have a Glock 30), but what do you mean by "Target"? Do you mean casual paper punching or do you mean shooting for money/trophies?
    The guys that are taking their 1911's in for "tweaking & tuning" are not happy with it "just goes bang and throws lead toward the target" but are looking for winning scores (see money/trophies) or to customize it to their exact desire (ambi-safety, beavertail etc), while the Taurus guys are happy with something that simply "goes bang and throws lead toward the target" (and costs less than a real 1911).

    Like the difference between a "box a year" shotgunner and a "case a day" Trap shooter, they both have 12ga shotguns, but one demands a lot higher level of performance and is willing to pay for it both up front and own the road.

    Besides, the "Big Name" firearms hold their value better than the "off brands" do.
  • PearywPearyw Member Posts: 3,699
    edited November -1
    My Taurus PT1911 groups as well as my $1500 Les Baer. I wonder If you folks that are bad mouthing it have actually shot one.
  • RobinRobin Member Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you are open to a double action .45 ACP for general purposes, I suggest to check out a Ruger P-90. There are several variations available, i.e. stainless, decocker, safety, etc. Mine groups as well as more expensive non-target models like Colt, Kimber etc. It has never failed to go bang in over 2,000 rounds. It is not an ideal gun for concealment. I have 1911 types and I leave the house a lot more with the P-90.
  • ATFATF Member Posts: 11,683 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by brier-49
    I think you have that backwards, the Taurus is the dog,with a great warrantee that is needed.Between my son and I we have 2 Colts 1 SA 1 Paraordiance 2 Kimbers 2 Les Bears and a Remington-Rand. Except for the Rem-Rand all were new purchases,none have needed any work done,no jams no nothing wrong at all.We shoot bowling pins using all different kinds of ammo,including the Saeco 058 bowling pin bullet,it is almost square, neither of us has ever had any problems.


    Do you own a Taurus? Have you some experience with them? [:(]
  • PC800PC800 Member Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The XD is the softest shooting 45 ACP I have ever shot. Don't know why, but it is. Very accurate and feeds anything also.
  • 918 collector918 collector Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, I'm probably not typical, as my first 45 ACP was a S & W Model 25 revolver. Love the gun, not crazy about moon clips.
    In autos, my first was a full-sized Glock. I think it was a police trade-in. My only mods have been adjustable sights and a drop-in barrel from EFK Firedragon. This allows me to shoot lead bullets and the accuracy is much improved. It shoots as well as I can hold. I'm just a casual shooter, not a competitor.
    Since the full-size gun is so bulky, I bought a Glock 36. This is the little single-stack gun. Like it well, also. Will probably put an after-market barrel in it too.
    Can't fault the 191l's, I just find that the Glock does everything I need.
  • dfletcherdfletcher Member Posts: 8,179 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Like 918 my first 45 ACP was a revolver bought in 1975 and I still have it, an S & W Model 25, along with some 1917s.

    Picking a 1911 you'll like is a very individualistic thing. You'll find alot of strong likes & dislikes regarding sights, full length guide rods, triggers & such.I'd suggest some range time - as in more than one trip - and try out a few of the rentals. I happen to be on my 2nd CZ Dan Wesson, got the Bobtail & now the Pointman, and the gun store is selling them like crazy.

    Do some reading about the machanics & then see for yourself what you like by shooting a few.
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Try a HK USP. I have the Expert model, and the recoil buffer system they have works. It is a little large for carry, but since your just wanting it for target shooting....

    Concerning accuracy, for me, there is almost no difference between the USP and the Les Baer. Both have functioned perfectly, out of the box, with no smith'n needed.
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