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Ammo price

NwcidNwcid Member Posts: 10,674
edited February 2007 in Ask the Experts
I know we have an ammo expert over here so I thought I would post on the ATE.

I am thinking about selling some .50 ammo I got last year. With the way things are going I think it will be a while, if ever [V] before I get a .50. I have lots of other guns that need fed now. I am looing to find out what it is worth. I have about 300rds of blue tip and about 250 FMJ. I belive it is all Talon ammo. Any help would be great.

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  • NwcidNwcid Member Posts: 10,674
    edited November -1
    I have inherited some 30-06 ammo made by Talon manufacturing it's in an ammo can marked 30-06 M2 ball bulk pack but everywhere I look the internet through several ammo dealers and the manufacturing company there is no info to be had about it or what it may be worth.If someone could tell me something about it I would be very greatful.

    Thank You[:)]
  • NwcidNwcid Member Posts: 10,674
    edited November -1
    whats the golden bear 7.62x39 fmj sealed case 1k rounds selling for.TIA
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Blue tip" ?

    If this is original US military ammo, it is WW2 incendiary, worth $3 - $10 / rd; more (perhaps much more) if it should be one of the experimental loadings. If it is some post-issue material reloaded / made up for the Barrett (etc.) shooters, it's the market price for that particular loading.

    FMJ - if original, $3 - $20 / rd depending on headstamp and variations, else same as above.

    Where you say "Talon," I'm guessing this was produced as shooting fodder and it will be at best the going market price, whatever that may be as evidenced by show / Internet / distributer sales.

    "The way things are going," you'd better buy the rifle because it sure looks like the liberal vermin are going, again, to try to disarm us and the .50 caliber rifles are high on their shopping list.
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nwcid,

    I was a little baffled by the blue tip also. This may be a solution for that. But what I'm really curious about is what you mean by the term "Talon"?

    Unless this is it...

    "TALON remanufactures ammunition using recovered military grade components for the sporting goods industry, military special operations, and foreign military sales. We are a wholesale distributor of quality .30 caliber, 7.62, and .50 caliber ammunition."

    And:

    Talon Manufacturing Company, headquartered in Paw Paw, West Virginia, holds an
    exclusive contract with DOD to demilitarize (demil) small arms ammunition, defined
    as -50 caliber and below. Ammunition leaving the DOD account is classified in three
    categories: unserviceable, excess, or obsolete. No small arms ammunition goes
    directly from DOD to the civilian market. The ammunition is shipped in bulk to
    Talon from various military storage depots. DOD pays Talon $1 per ton for the
    ammunition that it will demil.
    In the case of SO caliber ammunition, Talon separates the round and discards the
    primer. The remaining components can then be (1) sold for scrap, (2) used to
    manufacture reconditioned ammunition (with a new primer), or (3) sold on the
    civilian market for customers who reload their own ammunition using the brass
    casing, projectile, and propellant (gunpowder) components. The reconditioned
    ammunition sold by Talon for purchase by civilians has essentially the same ballistic
    characteristics as the original military round. It is widely referred to as "military
    surplus" ammunition.
    DOD provides Talon with five types of SO caliber ammunition: ball, armor-piercing
    (AP), armor-piercing incendiary (API), armor-piercing incendiary tracer (APIT) and
    ball tracer. These rounds are all sold on the civilian market.
    GAO/OSI-99-14R Availability of Military 50 Caliber Ammunition

    "Used by M2 and M85 machine guns. For incendiary effect, especially against aircraft.

    Upon impact with a hardened or armored target, the incendiary composition bursts into flame and will ignite any flammable material.

    Incendiary composition: 34 grains (2.2 g) IM 11

    The cartridge is identified by a blue bullet tip.

    Type Classification: OBS - MSR 11756003"

    Best.
  • NwcidNwcid Member Posts: 10,674
    edited November -1
    I am sorry I guess I did not give enough info here. This is just "cheep" shooting ammo and I belive it was all made/remade by Talon Manufacturing. The 300 rds of blue tip I belive are "INCENDIARY, M1" rounds, that comes from a PDF on military ammo loadings. I did a search on this ammo on GB and didnt find much to compare to that is why I was looking for current pricing here.

    I would buy the rifle but I am thinking that I can use the money from the few hundred rounds of this ammo for seveal thousand rounds for guns I already have that are gettting hard to feed like .308. I reload and have a ton of brass so a few hundred dollars for components will go a long way.

    Also what about shipping "INCENDIARY" rounds? Is there anything special I need to do or can I ship it like normal ammo? Do I have to do hazmat? If so how much can go on a single shipment?
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why anyone would shoot incendiary projectiles (if this is indeed what you have - jury hasn't heard any serious evidence as yet) out of anything as expensive as the .50 BMG - chambered civilian firearms is way beyond my understanding. This stuff is both erosive and corrosive. The US has not made incendiary (only) .50 BMG since the end of WW2 - the API took over this function in addition to its own.

    I am presuming this is the "robin's egg" blue? If not, it is not US issue. May not be US projectiles even with the correct color, but definitely not if a different hue. If any of these have two colors, e.g., the light blue combined a somewhat darker, blue-green area, this could well be an experimental or prototype loading. Dark blue alone could be Commonwealth or Dominican Republic, etc. Lotsa possibilities here, even with factory paint. Previous numbers stand.

    The only shipping limitations are on the destinations. Leaving international shipping alone as there are a number of extra hoops for that, there are many domestic venues where it is illegal to ship incendiary projectiles and several states / municipalities in Occupied Territory - such as the Peoples' Republik of Fruit and Nuts (pelosi land) or Sheetcago - where mere possession of a single such projectile in the absence of a special license is a FELONY under local or state law. No Hazmat fees; it ships just like any other ammo.
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