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mauser rifle value

dwgrenledwgrenle Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
edited February 2007 in Ask the Experts
I own a Mauser 30-06 Modelo 1909 Argentino, made in Germany. It is a modern hunting rifle, not a military rifle. It was my first hunting rifle my father bought me, he bought it from a friend and I dont know what he paid. It is in excellent condition. I am curious about the current value and what the original value would have been. I own two gun value books and I cant find this rifle listed anywhere. I appreciate any help on this. Thanks

Dave G.
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  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dave,
    You won't find it because it is an ex-military rifle that's been sporterized.

    The original caliber was 7.65 Argi and it was the finest finished of any Mauser ever made. They are much in demand in original pristine condition with even the cleaning rod numbered to the weapon.

    My advice to you is not to worry about the dollar value and value it for what it is-your first hunting rifle.
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Your rifle was originally manufactured as a military rifle for Argentina. The caliber it was chambered for was their 7.65 x 54mm military cartridge.

    Since it's now chambered for the 30-06, it has been sportized. Sportized military rifles don't generally command a high resale value. Sight unseen my WAG, is that it would be in the $150 - $350 range.

    On the other hand, a excellent original condition Model 1909 Argentine might be worth $300 to $500 to a military rifle collector. My 2?.
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  • dwgrenledwgrenle Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks to both of you for your input and knowledge. However, it seems that I am getting two different opinions on the value of the gun. I do not intend to sell it, I am just curious about its value and history. Also, when this rifle was in production. I recieved it in 1994 but do not know when the original owner purchased it.
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  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    dwgrenle,

    As stated above. Your rifle is a "Made in Germany by Duetsche Waffen-und MunitionsFabriken" or DWM for short, for Argentina beginning in 1909. The rifle you possess has no "collector value" as a military rifle. Which could bring as much as $1000.00 for your rifle if in excellent and ORIGINAL condition(meaning all the parts and pieces that DWM put on it as a military rifle).

    Just because it doesn't have value as a "Military Collectable" doesn't mean it doesn't have value. Who customized it may add value. How well they customized it may add value. The condition of it now may add value. I have seen these rifles sell for up to $2000.00 that were customized well. I have seen "bubbarized" rifles go for over $200.00. If your rifle looks good, has a decent bore, has been drilled and tapped properly it could go for around $500.00 any detractors from that and you could take away $100.00 right off the top. So, without further description I will give a monetary(not aesthetic)value of between $200.00 and $400.00.

    PA thanks for the correction on DWM...I knew it was there somewhere.
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  • PA ShootistPA Shootist Member Posts: 694 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One of my favorite custom rifles was built on a 1909 DWM Mauser action (Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken). It has no collector or historic value. But it isn't a "bubba" rifle. I had it built by a talented custom gunsmith. It is stocked with finely hand-checkered AA Fancy walnut, has a Shilen barrel, Timney trigger, Leupold scope and mounts, and other modern amenities. It is wonderfully accurate, easily less than a minute of angle with many loads. Its value as an exquisite, easy on the eyes hunting rifle and keepsake is hard to determine, but if it were to be sold it would probably bring only a fraction of its cost, even though a fine Mauser action is a great place to start when building a custom rifle. The point is there are many variations of sporterized ex-miltary rifles, with a very wide range of values.
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  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,692 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Does it still have the Argentine crest, which is two hands clasping, on top of the receiver ring?
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  • dwgrenledwgrenle Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you for your reply. No, It does not have a crest nor does it appear to have had one. If it did then all the metal has been reworked and blued.
    Dave
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  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,692 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Argentine govt ordered all the crests ground off.
    Supposedly a few of them did get out with the crest intact.
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
    Argentine govt ordered all the crests ground off.
    Supposedly a few of them did get out with the crest intact.



    The early import Argentine rifles, ( circa mid 1950's ), which were the Model 1891's had the Argentine National Crest ground off. The Model 1909's which were imported at a later date, had the Argentine Crest, intact. Do to a change in Argentine law/regulations? If the original poster has a 1909 without the crest, chances are it was removed or obscured by a scope mount when it was sporterized.
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