Russian m44 carbine

CHEVELLE427

any one have the ballistics on the 7.62x54r

this little sob has a kick to it.[:p]

reminds me of my slug gun[:D]

CHEVELLE427

i have a chance to pick one up for $150 + SOME AMMO don't know how much till sat,
gun is clean and tight don't know why i have been looking at this type but i have.

i know i can get one from J&G around $100-125 (not carbine)+ ship but you don't know what you will get till you get it.

this gun any good

YES
NO
MAYBE

Nwcid

What ammo are you shooting? I shoot a lot of the light ball 147gr Czech Silver tip and it is not bad at all. I hear the 200+gr stuff has a kick to it.

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmo.htm

CHEVELLE427

not sure some surplus stuff i got last weekend no label there bronze case, guess i could pull one and see

has a 10 and an 81 on the head

rufe-snow

quote:Originally posted by CHEVELLE427
not sure some surplus stuff i got last weekend no label there bronze case, guess i could pull one and see

has a 10 and an 81 on the head


You sometimes can tell the bullet weight of the East Block surplus stuff, by how they color the tips of the bullets. The Silver tips are approximately 147 grains, Yellows 180.

mark christian

The 10 code makes me think Bulgarian right off the bat and 81 as the year of production.

CHEVELLE427

have 3 kinds some were the silver tip match box said (hand written) gray case

they will get your attention.

did go get the 8mm guns and shot a few, could shoot them all day long compared to this little carbine.

not to bad at 100 yd either, did make a difference with the bayonet extended.

it is going to be a fun gun for sure[:p]

TRAP55

Bulgarian Steel core Light Ball, should have a bi-metal jacket too. Watch out shooting in rocky areas, the jackets fragment and burn like road flares. Makes a nice fireball too.



This is what they do when they hit the rocks:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v492/whiteclouder/?action=view&current=Sparky.flv

jonk

Try a Steyr M95 carbine with full tilt loads. Makes the Mosin suddenly much more manageable in perspective. [;)]
Remember that is almost certainly corrosive ammo; treat accordingly.

CHEVELLE427

looked up the foot pounds of energy it said 14.9 . think that is off some.

i have shot a lot of med size guns from 270 308 3006 243 8mm 45-70

only the 270 and 45-70 reminds me of the kick this one has.
and slug guns,[^]

not that I'm complaining, just didn't expect it.[:0]

allen griggs

It is not hard to find 30-06 ammo that cranks out more foot-pounds than that 147 grain Mosin Nagant ammo.

But, the little carbine does make a kick.

beantownshootah

Ballistically, with standard loads the 7.62x54R is roughly on a par with .30-06 rounds, shooting similar sized bullets are similar velocities. That's why the Mosin-Nagant round is often referred to as "the Russian 30'06".

Recoil from the Mosin M44 carbines is harsh, although this is in no small part due to the less than perfectly ergonomic design of the rifle. A recoil pad helps a lot.

There is a tremendous amount of information on this round available on the 7.62x54R net website.

For example, pretty much anything you'd want to know about the Bulgarian ammo in question can be found here, including detailed ballistics information:

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmo036.htm