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C&R in New york State

golferboy426golferboy426 Member Posts: 970 ✭✭✭
edited April 2011 in Ask the Experts
My brother has a C&R and lives in upstate New York. He also has a pistol permit. If I send him an eligible C&R pistol can it go direct to him without going to a dealer and does it have to be listed on his pistol permit? He recently got both and is unclear of the rules

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  • XP100XP100 Member Posts: 435 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hand guns coming into NY must come from an FFL holder.
  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If it is a working modern type handgun, that fires cartridges, it has to go to an FFL 01 here in NY(NY state law). Any handgun that can fire a projectile, period, here in NY has to be registered on a carry permit. Doesn't matter if it is a percussion cap fired muzzle loader, a cap and ball revolver, ot Dirty Harry's 44 magnum...has to be registered on his permit. If you have any more questions I can help you with, e-mail me, and I will give you my number to call me.

    Best

    EDIT:

    SPIDER...that is what I meant by this statement. I should have made it a bit more clear.
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    XP100 is correct. NY State does not recognize C&R licenses for handguns. Only an FFL dealer can receive it and it also must be sent FROM an FFL dealer.
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    If it is a working modern type handgun, that fires cartridges, it has to go to an FFL 01 here in NY(NY state law). Any handgun that can fire a projectile, period, here in NY has to be registered on a carry permit. doesn't matter if it is a percussion cap fired muzzle loader, a cap and ball revolver, ot Dirty Harry's 44 magnum...has to be registered on his permit. If you have any more questions I can help you with, e-mail me, and I will give you my number to call me.

    Best

    That's incorrect. Cap & ball handguns, both original and modern replicas, are exempt from registration in NY state except for NY City. They do not need to be on a permit UNLESS they are being fired or are accompanied by the firing components (caps, powder and balls).
  • tskrytskry Member Posts: 517
    edited November -1
    dont forget that he will also need a certificate of orgin from you, an original bill of sale attached to the form will be sufficent, he can get one from any county sharriff dept. he will also need to have the gun on his permit before the dealer you send it to can release it to him....
  • golferboy426golferboy426 Member Posts: 970 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks all, Glad I don't live in NY
  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tskry


    dont forget that he will also need a certificate of orgin from you, an original bill of sale attached to the form will be sufficent, he can get one from any county sharriff dept. he will also need to have the gun on his permit before the dealer you send it to can release it to him....

    Item above needs clarification:

    Once the gun is shipped to a NY FFL dealer, the dealer owns the gun.

    golferboy426's cousin does nothing different when he walks into the store to pickup the gun than when he buys a gun outright. He already has a permit, so he knows the paperwork involved, or he should!

    Only difference is the gun is already paid for. It's free, except the cost of the transfer. Joe
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have heard previously that guns going into NYS must come from a dealer. But, I have been unable to find a legal reference stating this; can anyone give me a legal citation?

    Neal
  • XP100XP100 Member Posts: 435 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Its in the NY State gun laws. Handguns from and to FFL. Rifles and shotguns from individuals with ID are OK.
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by XP100
    Its in the NY State gun laws. Handguns from and to FFL. Rifles and shotguns from individuals with ID are OK.

    A lot of dealers won't even accept longarm shipments from individuals. There's a serious paranoia in NY State by dealers who believe, with some good reason, that anti-gun NY State is trying to put them out of business. They don't want to take a chance that somebody like Bloomberg is setting them up by shipping them a stolen rifle.
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