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winchester 1894 25-35 barrel diameter

bgeorge_hbgeorge_h Member Posts: 11 ✭✭
edited March 2007 in Ask the Experts
have a 1894 25-35 with a muzzle diameter of just under 3/4 of an inch
seems like an awful heavy barrel for such a small caliber rifle.
the barrel has the correct winchester stamp as well as another stamp?
IP in an oval? barrel lenght is 20-1/4" serial#4057xx. it also has a button mag if thats any help.
any ideas. thanks for the help. Dan

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  • wtroperwtroper Member Posts: 736 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    octagon barrel?
  • bgeorge_hbgeorge_h Member Posts: 11 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    negative round barrel my badquote:Originally posted by wtroper
    octagon barrel?
  • wtroperwtroper Member Posts: 736 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do not know. My 25-35 mfg 1907 looks like any M94 30-30.
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    bgeorge_h,

    Bert, one of our Winchester experts, has been called away to participate in a service for our country and won't be back until sometime around the 1st of March. He mentioned that he would catch up when he returned.

    You could e-mail "only winchesters", to see is he might know something of this.

    Best.
  • schintzieschintzie Member Posts: 129 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello Dan,

    Standard Winchester barrels for the model 1894 rifle measured 11/16 + or -1/32" at the muzzle. Carbine barrels measured 29/32 * or -1/64" at the muzzle. A round barrel could indicate either a rifle or carbine; rifles had a forend cap, carbines had a forend band. Which do you have? The "P" in the oval indicates a replacement barrel installed outside of the factory, so it seems the barrel is not original.
  • WIN 1894WIN 1894 Member Posts: 149 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dan: I have several of these rifles and the oval will have a "P"with a "W"over it and was Winchesters definitive Proof Mark. On round barrels there have been cases where the stamp left off part of the W. This mark should be on the top of the receiver and on the barrel in front of the receiver. Hope this helps. [:)][:)]
  • nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It very well can be original. I had one similar to the one you have. It was all original with an odd but original rear site. What is the rear site and front site like ? Can you send any photos of the sites, barrel and markings. Bert is the one that will be better to determine if it is original and its value.
    Abort Cuomo
  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bgeorge_h
    have a 1894 25-35 with a muzzle diameter of just under 3/4 of an inch
    seems like an awful heavy barrel for such a small caliber rifle.
    the barrel has the correct winchester stamp as well as another stamp?
    IP in an oval? barrel lenght is 20-1/4" serial#4057xx. it also has a button mag if thats any help.
    any ideas. thanks for the help. Dan


    From your brief description, it appears that you have a special order Carbine. Pictures of it will greatly help to answer your question(s).

    The barrel is the correct dimension. Regardless of which caliber was provided (38-55, 32-40, 30 W.C.F. 25-35 W.C.F., or 32 W.S.) the barrel dimensions were identical. As a result, the barrel is quite a bit heavier on a 25-35 W.C.F. versus a 38-55. The serial number indicates that it was manufactured circa 1912.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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