ID this pistol and revolver

Emmett Dunham

The Remington Arms Union Metallic Cartridge Co., Inc
Remington Iownwks, Iwon N.Y. , USA Pederson's Patent's pending
PA1856 stanped on the left side above the trigger, this is a .380 automatic.
This pistol is about 90%, nice looking piece

Harrington & Richardson Arms Co Worchester Mass, USA
Pat Oct 4, 87 May 14 & Aug 6 89 April 2 95 April 2 96
This is nichel plated revolver with break open action and extraction. The nichel is about 50%, the grips are perfect.

Like to know the caliber of the Harrington & Richardson and an idea of the value of both weapons.

Added: What about the frame of the H&R is it strong little revolver, the Remington seem that it would be a good little shooter. Anyone second guess shooting either of these handguns.

Thank, you


Emmett

ruger41

the Remington is a Model 51. Approx 65,000 made from 1918 to 1927 50% is approx $225 100% approx $675

The H&R is probably .32 S&W or .38 S&W-in 50% it's probably worth around $65

rufe-snow

The most common of the H & R top-breaks is what is called the "Automatic Ejection" model. Over a million were made between the late 19th Century and the start of W W II. Caliber can usually ascertained by the number of shots in the cylinder. 6 will be chambered for a .32, 5 for a .38.

perry shooter

The Remington IMHO is one of the greatest pocket pistols ever made it has less recoil because of it's design then other pistols of same weight
and size It makes a great carry gun because it is very thin. One of my favorite pistols.

dogtown tom

quote:Originally posted by Emmett Dunham
...PA1856 stanped on the left side above the trigger...


What are the odds?
My Model 51 is number PA1756. I paid $75 for it in 1974 or 75.

32 Magnum

Concerning the H&R - the barrel rib inscription indicates it to be a large frame Auto - Ejecting 2nd Model, 3rd Variation made between 1898 and 1904. It should have a blued trigger guard. This is the last variation made before H&R changed over to smokeless/Nitro proofed handguns sometime in 1904, at which time the cartridge designation began to be stamped on the left side of the barrel. As stated before - 6 shot indicates .32 S&W or .32 H&R Long (an obsolete cartridge), or .32 S&W Long (after 1896)5 shot indicates .38 S&W. This gun was meant to handle BLACKPOWDER loadings - ONLY. I have a couple dozen pieces from this era and would NOT consider shooting any of them.
(dates and variation #s are courtesy of Bill Goforth's research...watch for his book on H&R firearms due to be published sometime in late Spring, Early summer 2008)