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Winchester 94

lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
edited January 2008 in Ask the Experts
Hello Bert,
I recently obtained a Winchester model 94 carbine,serial number 1762061,caliber stamp .30-30 Win., serrated hammer, flat checkered steel butt plate, short fore end wood, not tapped for receiver sight, blank upper tang. I'm hoping this Winchester is from 1951 also my birth year, am I close? Thanks, Greg LaHaie
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  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What was the first year the 94 was factory drilled for a lyman Receiver peep sight?
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I recently acquired a Model 94 made in 1949 in very good 90+ condition & finish....still has the original sight hood is in place. My question is, would properly installing a original factory saddle ring hurt the value of this rifle ?? or should I leave it alone (not looking for a increase in value, certainly don't want to hurt value either).
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am looking for recommendations on obtaining a Winchester Model 94 for my collection. I have seen this firearm several times an fall in love with it every time I look at one. I would eventually like to have two, one shooter and a collectible. What should I be looking for?
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    When did they start drilling the receiver for a receiver sight on the Winchester 94 and did they do that for the 92?
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Wincherster lever 94 that ejects from the top. I bought a side scope mount. Any ideas for a good scope for this gun?
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    anyone know what year winchester started drilling and taping the model 94 for receiver sights? thats the two little holes at the upper rear and left side of the receiver.
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A buddy of mine says he has a Winchester 94 730 is there such a gun and what is it's worth.
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    can anyone tell me what my rifle is worth or the value of it?
    Winchester Model 94 30/30 rifle $
    Buck horn sight
    Steel butt plate
    S/N 2051355
    it has only been fired once at th factory. excellent condition
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have a Winchester 94 with the safety mounted on the receiver. When engaged, blocks the hammer from hitting firing pin. Is that what they call a cross bolt safety?

    "the closer you are,the louder the boom."
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just received a gun from my Grandma that was my Grandpa's before he passed away. It is a Winchester 94 32W.S. with a serial number of 374615. Can anyone tell me approximately when this gun was manufactured? It is something I'd never get rid of, but I am just a little curious about its history.
    Thanks.
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am thinking of buying a WIN-mod94-

    A local FFL has two...

    A 1942 model 4 $419 and a 1952 model for $499

    What are the differences between the two rifles?
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Does anyone know the value of this Winchester 94 30/30. S/N 470201xx This firearm is in excellent condition. It also has checkering on the forearm and stock.
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    WHAT IS THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN THE REG 30-30 AND A CARBINE 30-30
    SO WHAT IS CARBINE MEAN
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    NEWER MODEL AROUND 2 YEARS OLD,LIKE NEW CONDITION,WHATS IT WORTH???
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was in the local shop the other day they had just got in 3 model 94's 357 30-30 and a 44 mag all new in box. Asking 650 each should a guy buy. i am not sure what model of 94 the are but the had checkered stocks and shorter barrels
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    loose fore end on 94 Wichester carbine with Barrel Band, gun is unfired condition is this a normal finding on some of these rifles and is it reflective of the quality control and fit and finish on 1986 run rifles.
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester 94 serial #78870 32 win special.
    Is this gone Collectible?
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have Winchester 94 rifle 26'' round barrel,higher grade wood with crescent trap door butt plate. The rifle was made in 1926. the hole in stock at trap door is 6'' deep. This seems short for a cleaning rod. Could the factory have made this for any other reason. Cody museum does not have the records for this rifle.
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester Model 94 lever action 30-30 the serial number is 1217701 and i am wondering if you can tell me when this gun was manufactured?
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Did any of the winchester 1894 rifles come with a shorter than 26 inch octagon barrel? I have one with a 20 inch octagon barrel. It does not look like the barrel has been cut off from a longer barrel.
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What are the differences of the pre and post 64' Winchester model 94 rifles?
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Win 94 made around 1969 that has a nickeled or chromed receiver and was wondering if this was a factory job or aftermarket. It is not a commemorative as there are no markings except the regular Winchester barrel markings. Any info is appreciated. Terrill
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hey winchester fans! here,s one for you. picked up a great looking model 94 in 30-30, this thing shoots like you wouldn,t beleive. guy had it at estate sale for $260.00. here,s my question: on the ejector side of receiver just above ejector port, there is a tiny screw in receiver. just to the right and above ejector, there is a small hole. is there supposed to be a pin or small screw in there? about 1/2 inch above ejector? thanks for input. firearm digest makes this a 1965 year model, thanks
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a model 94 Winchester 30-30, probaby around 1952 based on its serial number. I'm wondering if anyone has a ballpark estimate of its worth, or where to go for it. The gun looks unfired (wood is undamaged, grease still on the hammer, lever and in the champer, no scratching of the metal, no pitting or rust). Thanks for any info.
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have run accross a model 94 carbine with barrel markings I have not seen in my reference books. Did Winchester mark barrels MADE IN NEW HAVEN? I have only seen the MADE IN used with USA. Also was the PROOF STEELE notation used on carbines? And did Winchester use a MODEL 94 30-30 win as a caliber marking?

    Thanks
    rcdis
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello Forum... I just purchased two Winchester 9412 rifles, new in the box, unfired. They have a notation on the box which says, "Assembled in Canada by Winchester." I have searched Gunbroker for Model 9412, to no avail. Can someone tell me: a.)Is there any negative affect to their value since they were 'made in Canada'??? b.) The approximate manufacture date??? c.) The approximate value??? d.) The significance of the '12' model designation???
    They are both in 100% condition with boxes and all factory papers.
    Thanks to all who reply.
    John
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Did winchester produce any 94's without an upper tang marking?
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A friend of mine has a Winchester Model 94 in 25-35 Cal. The serial number is 1434765. Does anyone have any idea of the date of manufacture, and assuming it is, in fact, in good condition the aproximate value? Thanks
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester 94 sn90828, which according to my sn guide means that it was made ca. 1897. I wrote to Cody and they replied the only info in the records was that it was a 30 caliber carbine, which it is, but that it was recieved in the warehouse Sept. 12, 1900. Is it usuall for a 94 made in 1897 to not be warehoused until 1900? Any ideas?
  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have the chance to buy a Winchester 94 like new in box from my brother. He said he has fired about 8 rounds through it. It's got the cross bolt safety and is .45 LC. I think it's a trapper because it's short. He said he would take $350 for it. How much is it worth now and how much will it be worth now that they wont make them anymore?
  • mussmuss Member Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I sure hope so, I have a similiar serial number in 32 special also.
  • Old-ColtsOld-Colts Member Posts: 22,697 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by lobo35
    I have a Winchester 94 serial #78870 32 win special.
    Is this gone Collectible?
    Serial Number 78870, are you sure? If so, is the chambering really 32-40 instead of 32WS.

    I don't think the 32 Winchester Special was offered until about 1903 and the serial number you posted is too early for this caliber.

    If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!

  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The serial # reads 78870 and it is a 32 win special.
    It is a clear stamp and doesn't appear to be messed with...the last 0 looks to be a white stamp that might be some dirt...
  • Old-ColtsOld-Colts Member Posts: 22,697 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Very interesting! At least one reference book suggests the 32 WS was introduced at approximately serial number 144,000. However, if the barrel is original to the receiver, it is possible the receiver could have set around in the parts bin for a couple of years before being assembled. I would suggest that you order a factory letter on your gun from the Buffalo Bill Historical Center since they should be able to provide you with a letter stating the original configuration and shipment information for your particular serial numbered Winchester.

    Information about Winchester factory letters is contained in the sticky "Serial number references" at the top of the Experts Forum as well as a sticky titled "Winchester Model 1894 facts" that contains some great information!

    If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!

  • lobo35lobo35 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the info Old-Colts...

    I examined the gun a little closer and it looks like the barrel is in better shape than the lower receiver.

    It looks like it was replaced. What a bummer. the lower receiver is in great shape....
  • Old-ColtsOld-Colts Member Posts: 22,697 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The receivers lost their bluing a lot quicker than the barrel and magazine tubes, so while it might be an indicator it isn't definitive proof. The time between when your receiver was made and when the first 32WS was produced isn't such a wide gap that it isn't at least a possiblity that the receiver sat around for a while. If you can post pictures, especially of the markings on the gun, there are some very knowledgeable folks here that might be able to shed more light on its originality. There are instructions for posting pictures in a sticky at the top of this forum. Also, if there is any question a factory letter would sure be beneficial.

    If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!

  • MIKE WISKEYMIKE WISKEY Member Posts: 10,043 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    or it could have been sent back to win. for a rebuild/rebarrel. take the forend off, the barrel should be dated.
  • mussmuss Member Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    serial #81894 on my gun.

    This is an old 94 that has had the wood refinished several times.

    Maybe they used up some left over parts at some point or remanufactured some guns?
  • bigcountry_75214bigcountry_75214 Member Posts: 494
    edited November -1
    There's a nice article on this gun in the October 2007 issue of Gun World.
  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    For any real good Winchester questions like this, especially, I am going to send you guys top Bert H...one of the moderators of this forum. He Knows almost anything that is Winchester. He is the author of some of the stikeys at the top of the page concerning the 94's also. You might want to take a look at that stickey, and e-mail Bert directly.

    EDIT:

    MUSS,
    A factory letter still is a nice thing, as it tells about the birth of your rifle. It gives the when, where shipped to, girl/boy(what features it had), and if it was a loner, twin or tripplett(how many shipped in that shipment)
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