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French made PPK/S

bwi8bwi8 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
edited January 2008 in Ask the Experts
I purchased 2 French made Walther PPK/S's while in Germany. They have consectutive serial numbers. Anyone know a value on these today? .22 cal.
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  • badsbsnf81badsbsnf81 Member Posts: 768 ✭
    edited November -1
    Have they been shot? If so, how much? What is their condition? What kind of finish (blue, nickle,etc.) Do you have the origianl boxes, paperwork, manuals, tools, etc.? Are they import marked? What kind of grips and what shape are they in?

    Without knowing the answers it's hard to give a value. Have you tried looking on the auction sites? A very broad range would be 600-1200.
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,891 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The manufacturer is "Manurhin", not "Walther". Look it up under that name.

    Neal
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  • bwi8bwi8 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by badsbsnf81
    Have they been shot? If so, how much? What is their condition? What kind of finish (blue, nickle,etc.) Do you have the origianl boxes, paperwork, manuals, tools, etc.? Are they import marked? What kind of grips and what shape are they in?

    Without knowing the answers it's hard to give a value. Have you tried looking on the auction sites? A very broad range would be 600-1200.

    One has been shot but the 2nd was fired less than 10 times. 1st rarely handled but 2nd has but doesn't show any wear. They are both blue and yes I have the original box, cleaning rod, target pattern and certificate. All the paperwork is there. Made in France is stamped on the bottom of the grip. St Etienne is stamped on the barrel. Left side of barrel has "under license of Carl Walther Waffenfabrik Ulm/Do. Modell PPK/S Cal.22L.R.
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  • bwi8bwi8 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Originally posted by nmyers
    The manufacturer is "Manurhin", not "Walther". Look it up under that name.

    Neal

    Thanks, here's what I found. Immediately following World War Two Carl Walther escaped from what would soon become East Germany (the Walther factory at Zell-Mehlis was located in the Soviet Zone of occupied Germany) to what would soon be West Germany with little more than the clothes on his back - and the patents for his firearms. With post-war West Germany forbidden the manufacture of firearms, Walther was essentially out of business and earned his living by working as a mechanic.
    In 1952 Walther entered into an agreement with Manurhin that permitted Manurhin to produce his model PP and PPK pistols in France, under a royalty agreement. These royalty payments, and the changing political scene, allowed Walther to rebuild his own manufacturing plant in Ulm, Germany, and begin production of his Model P.38 pistol there.
    Walther's close relationship with Manurhin continued to 1986, and all post-war Walther model PP and PPK pistols produced prior to 1986 were actually produced at the Manurhin plant, regardless of whether the pistols are marked "Manurhin" or "Walther" and proofed at St. Etienne or Ulm.
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  • bwi8bwi8 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
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  • bwi8bwi8 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bwi8
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