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How old does a pistol have to be...
JFAHEY
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Any idea how old a pistol has to be to be considered an antique and not have to be registered in the state of New York? My brother has an old spanish pistol on his fireplace mantle for decoration and said it's about 70 years old. He's never had a pistol permit and says he doesn't need one because it's an antique. I say he's wrong....but what do I know. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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According to Federal law, any gun must be made before 1899 to be considered antique.
Many states do follow the Federal law, and North Carolina is one of them.
I do not know about antiques and gun registration in New York.
Isn't that "designed" before 1899? Even modern made black powder guns of pre-1899 design are not subject to registration are they?
That's correct. For example, a Colt Blackpowder "Signature Series" revolver made in 1995 does not need to be registered unless you are going to fire it.
Isn't that "designed" before 1899? Even modern made black powder guns of pre-1899 design are not subject to registration are they?
Yes you are right.
A gun that shoots cartridges, such as an 1873 Colt SAA, must have been made before 1899 to be considered antique.
Thus you have a .45 Colt made in 1897, and one made in 1900, they are identical and shoot identical ammo, one is antique, one isn't.
A muzzleloader is in the "antique" category even if it was made this year.
This is Federal law, many state laws differ.
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quote:Originally posted by Fatstrat
Isn't that "designed" before 1899? Even modern made black powder guns of pre-1899 design are not subject to registration are they?
That's correct. For example, a Colt Blackpowder "Signature Series" revolver made in 1995 does not need to be registered unless you are going to fire it.
That is incorrect on both accounts. If ANY pistol is capable of firing, it must be registered and permitted to the owner/user in New York State. If it is a cap and ball, muzzle loading, or cartrige handgun that can be loaded and fired without the installation af any parts it must be licensed. If not you can be charged with a felony.
quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
quote:Originally posted by Fatstrat
Isn't that "designed" before 1899? Even modern made black powder guns of pre-1899 design are not subject to registration are they?
That's correct. For example, a Colt Blackpowder "Signature Series" revolver made in 1995 does not need to be registered unless you are going to fire it.
That is incorrect on both accounts. If ANY pistol is capable of firing, it must be registered and permitted to the owner/user in New York State. If it is a cap and ball, muzzle loading, or cartrige handgun that can be loaded and fired without the installation af any parts it must be licensed. If not you can be charged with a felony.
BALONEY! I just UNREGISTERED a Lyman .36 caliber cap & ball from my NY State pistol permit by telling them I no longer plan to fire it. They removed it from my permit. I also have a number of Colt Second Generation revolvers that do NOT need to be registered. You can buy black powder handguns without a permit in NY State, even through the mail (except in NY City). You just can't carry it with powder and caps.
http://www.nysrpa.org/nygunlaws.htm
Antiques and Replicas:
Antique rifles, shotguns and handguns, and replicas thereof, generally are exempt from the above restrictions and can be bought and possessed without a permit. (Persons who shoot muzzle loading handguns must be properly licensed.) Antique handguns must be unloaded and possessed without the materials to load same.
Since one can purchase a replica cap and ball pistol as well as the cylinder that convert the pistol to cartridge, would you have to register it once you obtain the cylinder?
Yes, if you convert it to fire modern cartridge ammunition.