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200 gr soft point 7.62x54R

Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
edited May 2010 in Ask the Experts
I have a couple cases of this and I just read in the general discussion that it's not suitable for use in Mosin rifles. Is that true?
I used to recruit for the NRA until they sold us down the river (again!) in Heller v. DC. See my auctions (if any) under username henryreilly
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  • NwcidNwcid Member Posts: 10,674 ✭
    edited November -1
    It is good ammo for the MN.


    It is NOT good for semi auto guns like the PSL.
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  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have been shooting it in my MN for two or three years now....no issues.
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  • Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Aside from the topic on the GD board, I had someone with a Mosin decline to buy it because "it isn't accurate"

    Thanks for your replies.
    I used to recruit for the NRA until they sold us down the river (again!) in Heller v. DC. See my auctions (if any) under username henryreilly
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  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Henry, the two common loads for the Mosin were Light ball (147grn) and heavy ball (182grn). Every Mosin I own will shoot one better than the other. 200grn is about as heavy as you want to shoot. The heavy ball will thump you, especially in the lighter carbines.
    Maybe that potential buyer said that because he has a little flinching problem shooting it.[:D]
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  • machine gun moranmachine gun moran Member Posts: 5,198
    edited November -1
    After trying the 200 gr. softnose in my Mosins, I bought three cases. The M38 carbine, when being fired with it for sight regulation at 25 yards, put the first 4 shots into one hole. That's not one ragged hole, but one bullet hole. I have an ex-sniper that I was lucky enough to find in unfired condition, with a glass-like bore that is 301/312 all the way to the muzzle. I made and installed a new front sight post (it needs a higher post for 200-grainers. If you do this, note that the posts are of slightly larger diameter inside the housing and are flanged at the bottom) from drill rod, and I am going to dedicate the gun for use with 200-grain ammunition.

    I've read several accounts about the killing ability of the 200-grain bullets on deer, and they are apparently very effective, especially when steep angling-away shots are taken.

    The Mosins use a 1 turn in 9 1/2" twist. This is a very good rate for .30 caliber 200 grain bullets. The 30-06 uses a 1 in 10, and still does well with 220 grains. The .308 uses a 1 in 12, and is not real successful with anything over 200 grains. Faster twists are required to stabilize heavier bullets. The Mosin twist still works well with bullets of about 150 grains, and would probably still be good at about 125 grains, but not much lighter.

    Many military twist rates were established at around the turn of the last century, when longer, heavier bullets were the norm.
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  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Henry0Reilly
    I have a couple cases of this and I just read in the general discussion that it's not suitable for use in Mosin rifles. Is that true?


    A couple CASES? I'll take it off your hands if you don't want it!

    If its not for Mosin rifles, then what exactly *IS* it for?
    Seriously, that stuff should work great in those guns.

    As mentioned, there are only two concerns about it:

    a. Recoil. . .ouch. [;)]
    b. Heavy loads can damage PSL-type semiautomatic rifles in 7.62x54R.
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