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NWCID- NFA help please
gunnut505
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Talked to a vendor at the last gunshow who sells YHM gear. He stated that there is a can for the 300Win Mag that doesn't need to be subsonic, that the more gas the better, and that suppression levels are on par with a 22short.
Should I call BS or not?
Should I call BS or not?
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YHM makes some pretty decent stuff at decent prices. I have heard some mixed reviews on them overall though.
As for sound it is partially relative. To me most non subsonic ammo with silencers sounds similar to someone shooting 22lr 50-100 yards down range. You still get a crack from the bullet breaking the speed of sound but it is a displaced sound. Also the area you are shooting in will make a difference. If you are shooting in an open field vs in a "canyon" style area vs under a covered area vs wooded area vs ect.
Different bullet diameters and speeds will make slight difference in sound. So say .223 is a slightly higher pitch crack, where .308 is more of a deep lower sound. Neither are unpleasant to hear though.
Not sure on actual function vs pressure vs size as I am not that kind of smart [:)] I do know that to a certain extent the higher the volume the silencer the the better it suppresses.
Does that help at all or what can I try and explain better?
If these things work "better" with more gas, and only run about $450; I see no reason not to own several.
Talked to a vendor at the last gunshow who sells YHM gear. He stated that there is a can for the 300Win Mag that doesn't need to be subsonic, that the more gas the better, and that suppression levels are on par with a 22short.
Should I call BS or not?
The highlighted selection should answer your question. I think you were dealing with an idiot who was trying to sell a suppressor. I sell YHM stuff too, but I don't make stupid claims about it's performance. Call YHM and see what they say.
BTW they do make quality stuff and a very reasonable price.
I don't have the catalog with me right now, but the can is only about a foot long, and about 2" diameter. What I couldn't wrap my head around was the statement that the more gas volume from the gun; the better the can works. I just can't believe that the same can would work for a 30 Carbine "almost as well" as for a 300. The volumes are so different-12 grains of powder for the .30M1 and 72.5 for the 300.
If these things work "better" with more gas, and only run about $450; I see no reason not to own several.
At 12" long and 2" diameter that is a very large silencer which should be very effective on large guns. I have an AWC Thundertrap which is 8.5" x 1.6" and works very well. I use mine on ANY gun I want under .30 caliber. Other then tone (this is a better way to talk about silencer sounds) there is not much overall sound between the calibers/round.
The reason they are less expensive then some silencers is they are using "older" technology and cheeper materials like steel. This is not say it is a bad thing, just a why. When you buy silencers you need to make a list of what you want out of the can. Here is a list of things you need to put in priority, size, weight, price, materials, mount style prior to looking at buying. Based on that list will help decide what silencer is best for you.
Since silencers have to have transfer tax and paperwork when you buy one you automatically have lost about 40-50% of what you paid for it and that is if you resale it in state vs out of state. This means you dont just buy one that looks good in price with plans on "trading" your way up to a "better" can. So YOU need to do some research and find out what you are looking for. We will be more then happy to help you do this.
Moose is a good guy and makes some very valid points.
The M16 rounds I've heard repeatedly (as well as AK) both outgoing and incoming create a distinctive quite audible 'crack' about 30-50 yards from the shooter.
From over 100 yds away, I've heard the distinct 'crack' of M16 bullets in mid-flight, whereby the sound appears either sooner, or later than the gunshot sound (again depending on the observers' angle to the line of bullet flight).
Every item in my post (except for the blue highlight), can not be controlled by any muffling device. Only the reduction in speed of the bullet can remove the 'crack'. Hope I helped. Joe