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Remington 552 accuracy problem

GatoGordoGatoGordo Member Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 2010 in Ask the Experts
Picked up a Remington 552 .22 autoloader recently and I'm disappointed in the accuracy when using a 'scope. The construction is for a slip fit of the barrel into the receiver and as the scope mounts on the receiver any excess tolerance between barrel and receiver causes inaccuracy. The barrel mounted open sights are okay.

Has anyone had any experience tightening the fit while still maintaining the ability to dissasemble the rifle?

Unless I need to clarify something I'll just say 'thanks' now and look forward to your ideas.

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  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    For the most part, I have had no bad experiences with accuracy, with the 552. It is on par with the 10-22, and the BAR-22. The barrel reciever fit is pressed and pinned type fit.

    I might ask what you are using for a scope/mount combination.

    Best
  • GatoGordoGatoGordo Member Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    For the most part, I have had no bad experiences with accuracy, with the 552. It is on par with the 10-22, and the BAR-22. The barrel reciever fit is pressed and pinned type fit.

    I might ask what you are using for a scope/mount combination.

    Best




    What are you referring to when you say the barrel is pinned in place? Once I remove the forearm on mine the barrel just slips from the receiver. A link for an example; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB_TNi0aTzA (see at about 2:20 in) and I don't see a pin in the schematics for a 552. Am I totally messed up here? I appreciate your help but I'm confused.

    btw - The scope and mounts are off another rifle and are proven reliable. Good idea but I don't think that's the problem.
  • MIKE WISKEYMIKE WISKEY Member Posts: 10,046 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    the only thing I can suggest it to put some red or blue lock-tight on the barrel tennon when you reassemble the rifle. the 552 series of rifle (as well as the nylon series) dosen't do well with a scope.
  • JudgeColtJudgeColt Member Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    tsr1965 is totally mistaken about the barrel being "pressed and pinned" to the receiver on a Remington Model 552. It is merely a "slip-fit" on earlier models. (The nearly-identical Model 572 pump uses the same barrel "slip-fit" system.) There are no pins holding the barrel to the receiver and the barrel is not pressed into the receiver. I cannot imagine where tsr1965 got the idea the barrel is "pressed and pinned" to the receiver on a Model 552. tsr1965 must be confusing the Model 552 with another rifle.

    Some barrel fits on the Model 552 are looser than others. I bought a Model 552 new in the 1950s and fell down on it while running from wasps I had accidentally stirred up. That badly loosened the barrel-to-receiver fit. I squeezed the barrel hood on the receiver in a vice until it was tight again. If you carefully position some blocks of wood around the barrel hood on the receiver and squeeze the barrel hood in a vice, you should be able to tighten the fit until the barrel almost has to be forced into the receiver. That should help your loose barrel issue, but the basic design is such that the barrel-receiver fit will always be the source of some amount of inaccuracy.

    Later Model 552/572 rifles have a screw in the receiver to tighten the barrel to the receiver. Perhaps you could buy such a screw from Remington and fit it to your Model 552 if you cannot make the fit tight enough to satisfy you with the "squeeze" method.

    Of course, proceed at your own risk on any approach you take.
  • 5mmgunguy5mmgunguy Member Posts: 3,092 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think he maybe thinking of the Remington 580 series and the 590 series rifles. They are pressed and pinned.
  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JudgeColt
    tsr1965 is totally mistaken about the barrel being "pressed and pinned" to the receiver on a Remington Model 552. It is merely a "slip-fit" on earlier models. (The nearly-identical Model 572 pump uses the same barrel "slip-fit" system.) There are no pins holding the barrel to the receiver and the barrel is not pressed into the receiver. I cannot imagine where tsr1965 got the idea the barrel is "pressed and pinned" to the receiver on a Model 552. tsr1965 must be confusing the Model 552 with another rifle.

    Some barrel fits on the Model 552 are looser than others. I bought a Model 552 new in the 1950s and fell down on it while running from wasps I had accidentally stirred up. That badly loosened the barrel-to-receiver fit. I squeezed the barrel hood on the receiver in a vice until it was tight again. If you carefully position some blocks of wood around the barrel hood on the receiver and squeeze the barrel hood in a vice, you should be able to tighten the fit until the barrel almost has to be forced into the receiver. That should help your loose barrel issue, but the basic design is such that the barrel-receiver fit will always be the source of some amount of inaccuracy.

    Later Model 552/572 rifles have a screw in the receiver to tighten the barrel to the receiver. Perhaps you could buy such a screw from Remington and fit it to your Model 552 if you cannot make the fit tight enough to satisfy you with the "squeeze" method.

    Of course, proceed at your own risk on any approach you take.


    Actually I used the Ruger 10-22 as an example, of similarity, and it is a tight slip with a retainer. So as to an actual press and pin, yes I am wrong. As for the press and pin type fit, like I mentioned, no I am not wrong...the way it is set up is the same idea, same principal...sans threads. Combine a steel barrel tennon with a soft reciever, be it polymer, pot metal, or aluminum, on a sloppy fit, and you have what you have.

    Best
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