Questions about a few guns and value.

phreez13 · May 2010

I am new here and don't know how to post any pics. But I cannot find any good info on these 3 guns. I also have many others I am sure I will be asking questions about. And I appreciate all the help.

#1 The only markings on the gun are: Ruger .22 Cal. Single-Six. On the right side is 2244.

I did some research and cannot find a serial that low anywhere to see when it was made.

#2Left side markings. Carl Walther Waffenfabrik Ulm/Do P38 Cal 9mm. By the safety the number 0819. By the trigger 220819. I think it says Interarms, Alex, VA. On the right side it says 8/63. then there is a big XMI (the X looks like a crossout). That is it on this one

#3 From pictures all i can figure out is it is an american eagle. On the left side it does say Gesicchert, i see the number 19. I see a SA in a box. A crown emblem and a N. On the right side there is nothing. On the Barrell all i can make out is m-23 ber 765 para cai st a v1, also there is the number 619 ( i am probably way off there. but thats what I see ) I have many more guns with many questions. These are the first three. I appreciate all the help in advance.

Spider7115 · May 2010

There's a "sticky" at the top of this forum that shows you how to post pics:

http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=259294

If the serial number on the frame of your Ruger is 2244, it's a very early model made in 1954.

nmyers · May 2010

Well, #2 is a Walther P38 in caliber 9mm. It was made by Walther for the commercial market in 1963 at the plant built in Ulm, Donau, West Germany after WW2. It has an aluminum frame, unlike military P38's used during the war, which were all steel. It was imported by Interarms in Alexandria, Va, no longer in business.

#3 is a .30 cal Luger, probably made after WW1 in Germany. It was imported 5-10 years ago by CAI in Mt Albans, Vermont. It is likely what is called a "Russian dipped", a gun poorly refinished by the Russians after its capture during WW2. Sounds like the last owner replaced the barrel. Not really collectible, & not good for a shooter as .30 cal Luger ammo is not easy to find or inexpensive.

Neal

rufe-snow · May 2010

Numbers #2 & #3, appear to be fairly recent military surplus imports. #2, a West German army P 38 & #3, a Finnish Model 1923 military Luger.

As the previous posters noted we need quality photos to help you with accurate identification and valuation.

phreez13 · May 2010

rufe-snow · May 2010

The Finnish Lugers were imported fairly recently. The numbered parts aren't matching and they generally aren't in the best condition. Asking prices have been all over the map in the $500 to $1000 range. I doubt if many sell for the latter price unless their really clean.

The P 38 is a older surplus piece as Interarms went out of business in the 90's. It's the first version that the West German army used without the steel reinforced frame. Many thousands of these pistols were sold surplus over here. There common, yours looks well worn, probably would be in the $200-$300 range.

Ruger might be a early very desirable Single Six to a collector? If no one can help you here, check with the guys on the Ruger forum.

phreez13 · May 2010

Can you please direct me to the right place? Like I said. Im new.

Spider7115 · May 2010

That's a nice "Old Model" Ruger Single Six, made in 1954, the first year of production.

Henry0Reilly · May 2010

quote:Originally posted by phreez13
Ruger .22 Cal. Single-Six. On the right side is 2244.

This is definitely the most valuable piece of the three. Original (also called 3 screw) model single six revolvers without the conversion* bring $400 or more. Being the first year of production a Ruger collector might go quite a bit more.

*For info on the transfer bar safety conversion see the wikipedia article.

Questions about a few guns and value.

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