August Schuler 16 ga SXS

mto7464

Looking at a vet bringback sxs by August Schuler in 16 guage. It has some nice grain to it and has the euro cheek piece along with euro swivels. A little bit of engraving but not a lot. Bores are good but has it been proofed for smokeless? Can anyone help me on establishing a value on this. I could forward some pics.
http://s562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/mto7464/Aug Scheler/

nononsense

mto7464,

You can post the photographs in your topic by using the instructions found in this post:

http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=259294

Posting your photographs here will save you a lot of time and effort with multiple e-mails. You'll also get a much broader and better set of responses.

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Save the photographs from the e-mail to a file in the area of the hard drive named 'My Pictures' or something to that effect. Then follow the instructions as I suggested.

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mto7464

I will try this
http://s562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/mto7464/Aug Scheler/


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You are one simple step away if you had read the instructions...

rufe-snow

I believe from the German Proof Marks and the name August Schuler that the shotgun is quite old, probably dating to the early years of the 20th Century. The Germans changed their Proof Marks circa 1912, to prove shotguns for smokeless powder with a "Crown N" proof. Yours doesn't have this Proof Mark. Also only one barrel shows a "Crown W" proof meaning it is choked. Although it looks to be in good shape probably has more value to a collector then as a shooter given it's age, lack of smokeless proofs and question about chambering. The 16 gauges from that era also I believe had shorter chambers then modern 16's. If it can chamber modern shells it probably has been opened up.

nord

https://store.bluebookinc.com/Info/PDF/Firearm/Proofmarks.pdf

Proofs would seem to indicate that the gun was re-proofed post 1950 in Suhl. No indication of nitro proof.

Hawk Carse

I think the general rule is that if it is not otherwise marked, the chamber length is 65mm = 2 9/16 or 2 5/8".
A 2 3/4" shell will chamber because the length is for a fired shell with the crimp blown out straight. But firing an overlength shell may increase pressure dangerously. (There was an article in the Double Gun Journal that said not, but I would not depend on one report.)

jaegermister

My opinion this gun could be cleaned/blued/stock refinished and serve as a nice lightweight upland bird gun. Most of these guns all have excellent balance in 16ga. 2 1/2 in shells are available and reloaded, and should be used because of the lower pressure sub 8000lb load with 1oz shot. Approx value 600~900 dollars. All finished up 1200~1400 dollars. Again only my opinion.