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Winchester Model 94

Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
edited November 2003 in Ask the Experts
this gun is in fair condition, made approx 1966. looking for a fair value on this gun ? thanks

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  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm trying to find out when it was made.Winchester MODEL-94-30 W.C.F.Made in New Haven, CONN.#1554029
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What does ex in front of the trigger denote if anything. Thanks in advance.
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello,

    I have a question regarding a model 94 that I have had for some time. The serial number is 4224xxx and I purchased it as new in the box. The box is marked 30-30 Winchester / One 9412. The barrel is stamped 32 Winchester special and I slugged it and it is indeed 32 Spl.

    Did Winchester ever rebarrel Model 94's to a different caliber at the customer's request?
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm thinking of purchasing a model 94 30-30 from a friend. It was made in 1949 and has a monte carlo style stock with what looks like a bear carved on one side. The gun is fair to good condition for its age. Any ideas as to it's value? I can send a picture if that would help.

    Thanks,

    Rusty
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester model 94 that was made in 1971. It has an engraved stock. On both sides of the forearm is engraved acorns and on one side of the butt stock are two Elk fighting. Does any body have any more information and what would it be worth? It is in excellent ondition.
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    trying to find out what this may be worth

    32 winchester special
    octigan barrel
    nickel plated
    lever action80to 85%
    no rust
    sight manufacutrured in 1905
    gun 1897?

    robert apodaca
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I did some searching and got a round about idea, but would like more specific info.

    I have a Winchester model 94 30-30 with the 20 inch barrel and hooded sights. The stock is wooden and smooth, not checkered. It has probably nly been fired 10 times since it was new. The action is tight, the blueing is in great shape. The stock has a few minor dings and scratches. The serial # showed a 1977 build date.

    Whats it worth? I wanted to get a new pistol and trade in a gun I never use.
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [:)] I recently gotfrom my bother a 8. Winchester Model 94 30-30 - SN 2835320, can you tell from the serial # when it was made? Also could someone give me an estimate onthe value of this gun. Thanks in advance for your help.
    Lee
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am looking for date of manufacture and approx value on a Winchester Model 94 serial #2342929. The gun is 100%, never been fired condition. I have the box and tags but still can't find the date it was made. I am guessing somewhere in the 1950's??

    Thanks
    Charles
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I was 14 my Old man gave me "Canadian Cenntenial" model 94 Winchester. Its a 30-30 and it has an octogon barrel. I can't find any info. on this model, so I was curious to what it was worth. Also if it is part of a set of commemorative rifles. Any info would greatly apperciated.
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Question-when did Winchester change the tang/buttstock design on the 94's. It was before 1964, but I don't know when or what serial number.
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would like to know the year and value
    of this picticular gun. serial# 1021699
    side of barrell has model 94 winchester
    nickel steel 30 w.cf. top of ejection
    chamber has pw inside a circle.Inside
    trigger has the number 22.has wood grain
    stock.the gun has been in the family for
    atleast 50 years. please email me back
    with some information about this

    thank you,kelly

    kelly clutts
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I recently bought a model 94 in .32 winchester special and it has a large chunk out of the buttstock on the bottom side in the very back by the buttplate is there any good way to fix it or will i have to buy a new buttstock
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a really nice model 94 38-55 built it 1900. It has a really clean bore but a lot of wear. It really has been taken care of but the accuracy is really way off. If you were me would you have it relined or just say it is a 100 year old gun and forget it?
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a 30-30 winchester serial # 1674225 in mint condition fired about five times liked to what it's worth ? one owner gun! paid $200 for it the former owner said he bought in the early 60's looks like brand new!!
    Alex

    alex
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is the significance of 1964 for the model 94? I see a lot of the listings for these mentioning wether it is a pre- or post-64 gun. I was just wanting to know what that meant.

    Thanks
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is my first post and I'm not as much up on older weapons as I would like to be but oh well.

    Statement and question;

    I have a Winchester Model 94 .30 W.C.F.(not a Yellowbelly) It was made on August 5, 1902 and sat on the shelf until it was purchased by my Great Great Grandfather in 1905, which he carried the rifle in the last years he rode with the calvelry till 1910 (As what has been dug up, I dont know how much of it rings true, I have no proof of the year because the photos of him carrying the rifle are not dated). I know this only by a search done by the Wild Bill Cody Museum last year. I hooked up with the son of one of the curators that told me he could find out all I needed to know on the rifle. That said... The gentilemen (his father)I talked to on the phone and e-maild the pics of the rifle and my Grandfather to, made an offer to purchase the rifle from me. He said it was worth $8,000.00 to $13,000.00. I have not heard of rifles going for this much and after checking around on this site I dont see how this price could be honest. He also added if I were to take it to auction it could bring as much as $30,000.00 to $33,000.00 because of the rifles history, and the right buyer was wanting it.

    Does this sound like B.S.? I would sell it for $8,000.00 in a heart beat, I'm not that attached to the rifle anyhow. But I dont want to give it away either if $8,000.00 is the least it's worth.

    The only thing on the rifle that is not original is the stop for the slide on the rear sight that keeps the sight from sliding off the top. The stop was installed by a smith at the Cody Museum.
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    what years were the 94 made with a safety behind the hammer? this is a 30-30 with a slide type safety behind the hammer that is thump operated, i have never seen one before this. Does it have any added value? thanks for any info.
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I acquired a Winchester model 94 serial #4043416 circa 1974. Unfired, in original box. There are no printing of MFG. or caliber on the barrel, just proof stamp on top of barrel and receiver.

    Gun has minor handling rust on bottom and side of receiver.
    Question: is there any interest or collector value of missing MFG. and caliber on barrel?

    Perhaps one of a kind or a batch??? Please reply.

    Doug Hanneman 208-454-0116 or reply at www.foxy12@cableone.net.
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i have a winchester model 94 serial number 1642002 made in 1950 and i was wanting to know what the value on it is does anyone know?
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bought a winchester model 94, octagon barrel, 30 cal. serial number puts it from 1900. Great shape and also comes with a letter from Winchester. My question is. this gun came with a 4 round magazine. Have not seen that before and letter even states that it was made at the factory this way. Was wondering on value for this oddity and why would someone want a 4 shot versus a 1/2. 3/4, or full magazine? thanks
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would like to find a octagon barrel, crescent butt stock model 94 but I have no idea what years they were made. I have a Classic in my collection but I would like to find a shooter.
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What do you guys consider to be the most desirable of the older 94's. I really would like to have one with a crescent butt stock, but I have seen them in round,Octagon and half octagon/round barrels. Is it just personal or would one expect to pay more for a particular type of barrel. I am talking a gun you could shoot but also be in a collectable group. I've looked at most the gun sellers on line and they are all over the board on price and no particular design seems to lead in cost except those of special ordered guns and fancy grade wood.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,889 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In 1964 Winchester made across-the-board changes in their manufacturing techniques to improve production. What that meant, is that they substituted stamped parts for milled castings when possible, and used machined finishing instead of hand-fitting for both wood & metal. It wasn't long before the public realized that the changes were not necessarily for the better.

    Neal
  • only winchestersonly winchesters Member Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That's when the Olin corp. decided to get away from the "hand" work involved in making there firearms. They did away with guns that required a lot of hand fitting such as the Md 12, 42, 37 in shot guns and in rifles they dropped many of the models. They kept the 94, but instead of machining all the components, the went to stamped parts where they could. In general most post 64 Winchesters don't have the value the pre 64s had. I'm talking the plain old production models. They kept the Custom shop open until USRA bought Winchester from the Olin Corp. USRA closed the Custom shop in 82 I believe. Regards Dave
  • Der GebirgsjagerDer Gebirgsjager Member Posts: 1,673 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    And, therefore, collectors are more interested in the pre-'64 guns than the post-'64 guns and pay more for them. It is also worthy of note that when Winchester figured out that they were losing sales they reinstituted some of the formerly made parts and methods, and after a few years were once again making a pretty good product. Today, for example, one can buy a Winchester Mod. 70 with all the features of the pre-'64 model, plus the use of stainless steel which probably actually makes it even better.
  • hardley davidsonhardley davidson Member Posts: 141 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    the serial number range for pre 64 94 winchester is 2,700,000... any below that number i think are pre 64
  • Islander1989Islander1989 Member Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the info. I am assuming that if I am just looking for a hunting rifle, just about any year will do, but I might prefer either pre-64 or a late model? I have seen people talking about the push button safety on late models and that it isn't great either. What's the scoop on that?
  • Der GebirgsjagerDer Gebirgsjager Member Posts: 1,673 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Your conclusions as to earlier or later are correct, as is your notion about any will do for hunting. As for the "push button", it is a hammer block-type safety. The '94 has been redesigned to a greater or lesser extent several times since it's introduction. Originally it had a half-cock notch on the hammer and a squeeze safety which required you to grip the lever firmly. A few years ago the hammer became of the rebounding type which is never down against the firing pin except at the moment of firing. Then the push button safety which blocks the hammer. All liability concerns. Now comes the tang mounted slide button, which replaces the push button.[:(]Sure takes away from the nostalgia. On the other hand, the late edition has returned to a forged receiver, and these and the pre-'64s reblue a whole lot better than all of the cast receivers inbetween (about 2,500,000 of them!). Sometimes one can pick up a very nice older one for the retail price of a new model. Anyway, despite all the years and all the redesigning it remains a sturdy, light, workhorse rifle that is fairly effective and fairly cheap to shoot.
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