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what do i have?

dirt7dirt7 Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
edited April 2008 in Ask the Experts
I have a spingfield 1911A1. It is chambered in 9mm and I cannot find any information on it, or another one like it! I'm looking not just for its value but general info on it and how i might find another one. It appears to be a standard model (no bell or whistles). Also its an original 9mm frame, not a conversion. Anybody have any background info on this thing? P.S. I have pictures but cant figure out how to add them to this posting.
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  • dirt7dirt7 Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Found this in a box of old items my family had and can't quite figure out what it is. No brand name but does say Germany and a serial number on it? Handle feels like plastic? Ammo that was with the gun was .22 cal longer bullet.
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    Serial number?
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  • dirt7dirt7 Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm wanting to get a idea on the value of a gun I have here. I went over to the auction side, but couldn't find anything on it. It's a semi-auto pistol chambered in 9mm. On the box, it has "Tressitu", "TZ99", and "South Africa". Came w/ two 15 rd clips,cleaning brush, and hard case. Gave about 350 for it about 5 or so years ago. Thinking about selling it. Thanks in advance[:)]
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  • dirt7dirt7 Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Double shot guns, Richards on side. Under barrel has several marks. One mark is 6665 another is 12 (perhaps gauge?) then also letters FG on both barrels; also a capital A. Then on each barrel two different "stamps of some symbol". Have good close up photo I could email, if helpful. Like to know WHERE and WHEN made and general QUALITY when new.

    Other gun details: Wm Moore & Co. London Fine Twist 12 g initials J R and #13 under each barrel. Plus two sets of "stamps of some symbol," as on other gun. Again, like to know WHEN and WHERE made and general QUALITY when new. Also have photos.

    MANY thanks for any thoughts! :-)
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  • dirt7dirt7 Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    i was given this by an old friend so it will never be sold, i need info for insurance purposes. i could not find anything in 2005 catalog of firearms. thanks.<a href="http://photobucket.com/&quot; target="_blank"><img src="http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n312/sherpa_01/IMG_1012.jpg&quot; border="0" alt="Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting"></a>
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  • dirt7dirt7 Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a old 32-20 cal, falling block,lever action,single shot rifle that has Made by Birmingham Small Arms Co. Ltd stamped on one side of the reciever and Commonwealth of Australia W.A. stamped on the other side of the reciever. I would like to find out any information about this rifle and approximately what it is worth. Thank You for any information.
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  • dirt7dirt7 Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a bolt-action rifle made by C.J. Hamilton & Sons.
    It has No. 43 on it.
    It is .22 caliber. short??
    Made in Plymouth Michigan?? Around 1900-1907??

    Is this gun which looks like a toy gun worth anything?
    If so what is the value? I would say about 50%.
    Still shoots.
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  • dirt7dirt7 Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    At the local gun/dog trade show I found an old side by side 12 guage that was in pretty good condition. After inspecting it I found it to be in better shape than I thought, as it was very tight in all the right spots like the hinge area where it breaks and once locked back down it doesn't budge with a firm click!
    Everyone kept asking me as I walked around with it in my arms "Hey...wht do you want for the old STEVENS?" .
    It says no where on the gun "Stevens". It only says................... "The Sportsman"
    CLEVELAND
    I found the following in an artical after my own confusion and research on this nice gun.

    The Sportsman: Trade name used by the H. & 0. Folsom Arms Company on firearms made for
    the W. Bingham Company of Cleveland, Ohio.

    Now the question remains...What is it?
    By the way ...I gave $150.oo for it.
    I forgot to add this bit of info...It has a number 1500 stamped into the side of the gun near the trigger guard. It also has stamped in the breach area behind the hinge portion..E O then "in circles beside that" is A E. It also has in smaller stampings on each side of the breach area an 8 then on the other side a "v". I have found in the past that these markings would identify the date and things of manufacturing.


    JIM
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  • dirt7dirt7 Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a 12 ga. over/under that I do not know anything about on the side of the gun is stamped:

    FABBRICA ARMI FAUSTI STEFANO
    MARCHENO V.T. (BS)
    CANNE CROMATE

    ANY INFO YOU MAY HAVE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!
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  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    welcome!
    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=259294
    Retired Naval Aviation
    Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
    Former NSSA All American
    Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
    MO, CT, VA.
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  • dirt7dirt7 Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
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  • dirt7dirt7 Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here are the pics, i hope it helpsquote:Originally posted by dirt7
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Call up the customer service folks at Springfield. They were real helpful last time I contacted them. They told me when the pistol I was inquiring about was made. And why it was manufactured, (it was a limited production special order pistol, for third party sales).

    They have cranked out so many different variations on the basic 1911 frame, in the last 20+ years. This would probably be the only way your going to get the skinny on yours.
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  • dcs shootersdcs shooters Member Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's just Springfield's standard 1911 in 9mm. They made runs of them at times over the years.
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  • Jim the PA HunterJim the PA Hunter Member Posts: 87 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    You are probably correct but it really looks like a build using Mil parts. OR it could be a converted Mil 1911A1 that was originally a 45 ACP. At one time you could buy barrels and clips to convert or build a 9mm, 400 CorBon, 45 Gap, 38 Super Auto, etc. out of standard 1911 Mil parts. The grips could be bought from Numerich. It was a little more expensive to get the ones with the Colt button logo.[?]

    Did Springfield make a standard 1911 in 9mm that used a military style trigger, slide release, safety, hammer, and sights?[?]
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  • Bill DeShivsBill DeShivs Member Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Jim
    Yes, they did.
    You can't just change a .45 to 9mm by changing barrels and mags. The slide and ejector must be changed also.
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  • dirt7dirt7 Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I tried that, haven't heard from them in a couple weeks...quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
    Call up the customer service folks at Springfield. They were real helpful last time I contacted them. They told me when the pistol I was inquiring about was made. And why it was manufactured, (it was a limited production special order pistol, for third party sales).

    They have cranked out so many different variations on the basic 1911 frame, in the last 20+ years. This would probably be the only way your going to get the skinny on yours.
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