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Grips

Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 2008 in Ask the Experts
I have a set of old platic grips and one of them have turnd a little yellow and I would like to know if anyone has devised a way to blacken them rather than replace the grip.


Thank, you


Emmett

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  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    WHERE CAN I HAVE GRIPS MADE FOR A LLAMA9MM, MINIMAX AUTOMATIC,(looks similiar to 45auto), THE ONLY ONES I CAN FIND ARE RUBBER, I WOULG LIKE TO HAVE IVORY, PEARL, STAG, WOOD, CAN YOU RECOMMEND?
  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    looking for any co. that makes custom grips for star pistols
  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would like to put a set of wood grips on my Anaconda. Does anyone know what will fit? I would like the type that came on a Trooper,Lawman or Python
  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry for such a futile question...but does anyone know what these go on? Brand name? Really anything about them at all. They are brand new but have not the first marking on them. Thanks and Merry Christmas!

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  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How to tell stag and pearl from plastic grips
  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would like to see if anyone knows what these grips may fit?
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  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i cant find anyone who has custom grips to fit my old armi flli tanfoglio gardone mod.ta76 western single action 22 imported by excam.the thing is not worth much to any but me but i'd love to have a nice set of grips-can anyone help please? rick

    rick
  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anyone know what these grips go to? As always thank you so much!!!!

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  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can someone identify these for me? I haven't a clue. Thanks and Happy New Year!!!

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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello It is very hard to DYE plastic my suggestion is you use the products sold by BROWNELLS to refinish fire-arms needless to say not one that needs to be baked. . Model airplane/car paint might also work as this paint is for plastic.
  • Wolf.Wolf. Member Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    Emmett,

    I kind of doubt that you will be satisfied with paint to change the color of your grips. Some of the super tough paint in spray cans might work, but if I were you, I'd stay away from the bake-on coatings for obious reasons.

    Can you advise additional information about your grips?
    ---what is the original color.....white?
    ---how old do you think they are?
    ---are you sure they are plastic?
    ---are they for a collectable gun?

    You want to be certain the grips are not ivory or bone before you mess with them. These materials will take stain pretty well, but you will be dying a pretty expensive set of grips. It is not really reversible, especially for these organic materials.

    If you know the grips are plastic and not rare or important, try this:
    ===wear rubber gloves
    ===clean the grips with hot water and soap and dry them well.
    ===coat them with the appropriate color permanent leather dye, such as Feibings.
    ===after the dye dries thoroughly, get some shoe polish of the same color and rub into the grips for several minutes. (Do not try to remove the dye first.)
    ===heat up the grip panels very well with a hair dryer, being careful to not melt or deform them.
    ===let the shoe polish dry and then take an old t-shirt and rub the grip panels hard and thoroughly, until all the color that you can rub off is.......well, rubbed off. Use a toothbrush if necessary.

    This technique should stain the grip panels (no guarantee; I don't know the material you have), but will not completely cover the old color, so this technique may not be for you.

    Do remember, however, that gun solvents, alcohols, etc. may remove some or all of the stain the stain.

    Of course, you can use a commercial wood stain to see how that works. Remember, however, a great deal of what is sold as "stain" is actually brown paint in one shade or another. If you use stain, make sure that what you use is a "spirit stain". These stains will "soak in" rather than cover the surface. Follow the directions and repeat as necessary. They probably even have "black", but I think you'd have to look hard for it.
  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    These grips are of a Remington Model 51 and now that I think about there was no such thing a plastic when the pistol was manufactured. I could be wrong about them not being plastic I just remember that it seem that they started using it in about 1958 or 59. Any furthure info on returning the black color to the girip would be great.

    Wolf I will hold of on using your proceedure until I see if I get any other replys on the posiblilities of the grips not being plastic.


    Thank, you


    Emmett
  • Jim the PA HunterJim the PA Hunter Member Posts: 87 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi,

    I believe they are made of some kind of hard fiber or possibly a "bakelite" type material. I found some interesting info on your gun at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_51[8D]

    I've been using DuraCoat firearm finish with a hobby type air brush to paint composite stocks both solid color and camoflage colors. It's very durable and easy to use.[:D] No baking is required.[:D] I'd try the Matte Black color. Check 'em out at: http://www.houtsenterprises.net/dur_patterns.html
  • Bill DeShivsBill DeShivs Member Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bakelite IS plastic-an early one. All Remington 51s had black plastic grips. What the composition was, I don't know.
    There are replacement black grips available, I believe.
  • geeguygeeguy Member Posts: 1,047
    edited November -1
    Take off the grip and apply a small amount of asatone to the back, rub with cloth. Be sure to rinse with soap and water when done.

    Asatone does break down plastic, so assure you wash it when done. If it brings back the color (will not work on all plastics)apply in the same method to the face of the grip. A small "nateral" material brush can be used if the grip is checkered.

    Good luck
  • Wolf.Wolf. Member Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    Yes, As Bill noted above, Bakelite IS an earlier form of a true plastic. It came on the scene somewhere in the early 1900s and was not replaced until after WWII sometime (it had a long run!). The test for Bakelite is to get your nose ready and heat up a needle or pin to red hot and stick it into a hidden place on the test piece. Get your nose down there. The resulting smoke/fumes should smell like burnt hair.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wouldn't fool with them. These grips are 70-90 years old; just about anything you do to them can ruin them. Even removing them from the gun is not recommended.

    You might consider buying factory replacement grips at Gun Parts Corp, where they are in stock @ $27.15. The only problem is that these are purple/black in color.

    Neal
  • Emmett DunhamEmmett Dunham Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I ended up using asatone when I touched a finger on the grip were it had turned yellow I could see the chemical go right into the grip material, I could see why putting it on the back and rubbing with a rag would force the color to the other side of the grip. I used cloth dye and mix a small amount of asatone with it, I had to mix it quite a bit to get it really black, if you rush the mixing the dye, asatone mixture will just take more of the color out, I used the end of a stir stick to start in a small area and I notice that the asatone carried the color into the grip. I kept working the area until it was all black, the last step was to cover the entire grip to give it a consistant look and make sure I wiped it off with a rag right away. I had to work on the other girp to get it to look the same and was careful to make sure the dye and asatone was well mixed before I used the mixture. I am very, very happy with the results I got and would do it again!

    Thank everyone for the very good ideas that help get the job done!


    Thanks!

    Emmett
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There was a company called Franzite that produced plastic replacement grips for pistols and revolvers.
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