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Military-Made M1911 .22 rimfire (?)
Wolf.
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I was at the local gun shop today and I spotted a new-looking, plain, unembellished, parkerized M1911. Turns out it is a .22 rimfire. The shop owner was not there today, but the in-house gunsmith says the owner believes the gun is an "original military-made gun for training purposes or some other use".
The gun has all government markings on it. I had to leave pretty quick, but I handled it for a couple minutes. It looks like a standard old WWII-type issue .45acp M1911. According to the gunsmith, the gun is not made up from a conversion kit. Also, the gun is not a Colt Ace model/conversion. He said he'd never seen anything like it before. The gun was unpriced, but I asked the gunsmith (I know the owner and the gunsmith pretty well) to pull it out of the case and I would get back with the owner tomorrow to discuss the gun and what he wants for it.
Here's what I observed before I had to go:
-The gun looks like a standard WWII M1911, without any embellishments.
--The frame of the gun is a government frame, circa WWII era.
--Frame is stamped "US Government Property", or something like that
--The slide is a Colt government-type steel slide
--The gun is not a Colt Ace conversion
--I don't know yet about other markings on the gun, including the S/N
--The gun has adjustable rear target sights
--The magazine holds .22 caliber rimfires
--The gun has some kind of a floating chamber arrangement.
--The gun has military brown plastic grips
--The gun is parkerized and appears to be in 95% condition or better.
So, THE QUESTIONS ARE:
==Have any of you heard of a gun like this or seen one?
==What do you know about them?
==Could it be a military-made or a Colt special order gun?
==Was this gun made up and marketed by some company from surplus government M1911's ?
==Is this possibly a "one-off" gun made up by some military armorer? (I guess anything's possible)
==What do you think is a fair price to pay for a gun like this?
EDIT
I got another look at the gun, and found out a bit more about it.
The frame is WWII-era Remington. The slide is WWII era Colt. The owner is an ex-USAF pilot, now in his 80s, who says he got it in the miliary years ago (followed him home, I guess) and that the armorers made it up from a military Ace kit and new military parts. Like I said, the gun is in 95% condition at least. Unfortunately, it must have been made out of old Nazi gold, because the gun shop is pricing it at $2,100.00. Double+ than what I think it is worth.
I was at the local gun shop today and I spotted a new-looking, plain, unembellished, parkerized M1911. Turns out it is a .22 rimfire. The shop owner was not there today, but the in-house gunsmith says the owner believes the gun is an "original military-made gun for training purposes or some other use".
The gun has all government markings on it. I had to leave pretty quick, but I handled it for a couple minutes. It looks like a standard old WWII-type issue .45acp M1911. According to the gunsmith, the gun is not made up from a conversion kit. Also, the gun is not a Colt Ace model/conversion. He said he'd never seen anything like it before. The gun was unpriced, but I asked the gunsmith (I know the owner and the gunsmith pretty well) to pull it out of the case and I would get back with the owner tomorrow to discuss the gun and what he wants for it.
Here's what I observed before I had to go:
-The gun looks like a standard WWII M1911, without any embellishments.
--The frame of the gun is a government frame, circa WWII era.
--Frame is stamped "US Government Property", or something like that
--The slide is a Colt government-type steel slide
--The gun is not a Colt Ace conversion
--I don't know yet about other markings on the gun, including the S/N
--The gun has adjustable rear target sights
--The magazine holds .22 caliber rimfires
--The gun has some kind of a floating chamber arrangement.
--The gun has military brown plastic grips
--The gun is parkerized and appears to be in 95% condition or better.
So, THE QUESTIONS ARE:
==Have any of you heard of a gun like this or seen one?
==What do you know about them?
==Could it be a military-made or a Colt special order gun?
==Was this gun made up and marketed by some company from surplus government M1911's ?
==Is this possibly a "one-off" gun made up by some military armorer? (I guess anything's possible)
==What do you think is a fair price to pay for a gun like this?
EDIT
I got another look at the gun, and found out a bit more about it.
The frame is WWII-era Remington. The slide is WWII era Colt. The owner is an ex-USAF pilot, now in his 80s, who says he got it in the miliary years ago (followed him home, I guess) and that the armorers made it up from a military Ace kit and new military parts. Like I said, the gun is in 95% condition at least. Unfortunately, it must have been made out of old Nazi gold, because the gun shop is pricing it at $2,100.00. Double+ than what I think it is worth.
Comments
Edit please note my comment on first post between two red faces. As far as value I would say you are being very generous in your IDEA of worth . my IDEA is MAYBE in the $700.00 range.. You can buy conversion unit with original finish for about $400.00 or a MATCH GRADE MARVEL conversion without the floating chamberfor same price or less.Then and fit it on just about any brand or model 1911 or Clone. "EXCEPT THOSE MADE IN ASIA" . A REFINISHED CONVERSION on a REMINGTON FRAME "remington never made a conversion [xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(]This is a MONGREL any way you look at it.