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Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
edited May 2010 in Ask the Experts
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I responded to a post here on AtE and the guy sent me the above photo asking if I could help ID and value the guns. I will refer him to this thread.
I used to recruit for the NRA until they sold us down the river (again!) in Heller v. DC. See my auctions (if any) under username henryreilly

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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tell him to make sure that the sawed off shotgun barrels are at least 18" long and overall length is 26", before he posts additional photos of it.
  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't think ten answers will cover this.

    One picture DEFINITELY isn't enough to give a detailed answer here. For example, its hard to positively ID a gun still in a holster, let alone estimate its fair market value!

    I for one can only definitively identify a few of the guns based solely on this image (eg 1911-style pistol, two lugers, a P38, Lee-Enfield rifle, etc), and even then these are just best guesses. Its impossible to tell just from this image what caliber the guns are, whether or not they are originals or clones, let alone evaluate their conditions enough to give a good fair market value.

    I'd say as a VERY rough first approximation, that we've got nine longarms and nine pistols. A few of the pistols and rifles look like milsurp, and from this remote distance none of the rest appear to be all that remarkable. Most of them look like "shooters" (ie working guns) rather than pristine collectors' guns.

    Ballpark total value of the collection ought to be at least $4-5k if sold separately, and if there are any "gems" in there, it could be a good bit higher.

    In terms of the shotgun, by eye in the image, its probably OK. The bit left of the stock suggests that whomever cut it down was trying to keep it legal. That is, someone who was cutting it down either ignorant of the law, or oblivious to it, would probably have cut off ALL the buttstock and bit more of the barrels.

    But yeah, a quick measure of the barrel and overall length with a tape measure isn't a bad idea to prevent misunderstandings!
  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886
    edited November -1
    Center rifle with all the mildew [Shudder!] is a P14/P17 Enfield. Center pistol (P08)..I'd love to see [closeups of] all its markings, esp. the medallion on the right grip panel. Best, Joe
  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    rifles/long guns:
    Stoeger SxS $200
    Cheap .22 and cheap scope $80
    Rem 22 $100
    Semi-auto .22 $100 (if Browning $350)
    P14/1917 Depending on condition and original condition. Is white stuff dust? $75-$400
    Lee Enfield SMLE/Mk4 No. 1(?) $89-$350 If collectible then it goes up from there but very few highly collectible Lee Enfields
    Another bolt .22 $80
    1903A3 or Rem. model 30 (see bolt) $150-$500

    Handguns:
    1911-good sights unknown maker $500-$800
    Ruger revolvers, $300 ea.
    Stage coach shotgun, barely legal $150
    P-01/P-38 $200 (glut on the market right now of P-01's.
    Luger -$700-$1500 depending on condition and what's original and who made it.
    two little guns period pocket pistols going for around $150 right now.
    Luger w/replaced grips $500 if a real luger $300 if Erma .22
    Black handled pistol in holster $300, If Colt then $1000
    Holster $30

    That's my opinion.
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Quick and dirty but about true...
    quote:Originally posted by sandwarrior
    rifles/long guns:
    Stoeger SxS $200
    Cheap .22 and cheap scope $80
    Rem 22 $100
    Semi-auto .22 $100 (if Browning $350)
    P14/1917 Depending on condition and original condition. Is white stuff dust? $75-$400
    Lee Enfield SMLE/Mk4 No. 1(?) $89-$350 If collectible then it goes up from there but very few highly collectible Lee Enfields
    Another bolt .22 $80
    1903A3 or Rem. model 30 (see bolt) $150-$500

    Handguns:
    1911-good sights unknown maker $500-$800
    Ruger revolvers, $300 ea.
    Stage coach shotgun, barely legal $150
    P-01/P-38 $200 (glut on the market right now of P-01's.
    Luger -$700-$1500 depending on condition and what's original and who made it.
    two little guns period pocket pistols going for around $150 right now.
    Luger w/replaced grips $500 if a real luger $300 if Erma .22
    Black handled pistol in holster $300, If Colt then $1000
    Holster $30

    That's my opinion.
  • 1fisher1fisher Member Posts: 1,012 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think that the .22 to the left of the moldy Enfield is a Remington model 24. It is a neat little gun, and it looks to be one of the best of the long guns.

    Looking on the auction side - maybe in the $200 - $300 range.
  • foxbat3foxbat3 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Luger at the bottom left of the image is a 22LR Stoeger Luger with 5" barrel.
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