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Lets play name that gun?

kensgunskensguns Member Posts: 15 ✭✭
edited May 2010 in Ask the Experts
Ok, really hopeing someone has some history on this one! We don't even know what it is! Any insite on a name, and/or history of the gun would be greatly apreciated!

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  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Did you look for proofmarks on the underside of the barrels?
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The left barrel almost looks like a Whitworth bore

    It's to bad that someone failed to clean it and let the breach & nipples rust out.
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  • navc130navc130 Member Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Appears to be a European (probably Belgium made) combination rifle / shotgun gun. If the underside of the barrels are marked ELG proofmarked, it is Belgium. The beechwood stock was probably originally dark stained walnut finish and has been refinished. It is a medium quality and appears to be in reasonably good mechanical condition. Belgium guns usually had a "phoney name" on them to imitate some other famous maker but misspelled by one letter or so.
    I have been told that Belgium gun barrels were brazed together and were actually stronger than English and other European double guns.
    This gun looks like the barrels are soft-soldered together. If it is Belgium and unmarked it is probably a "trade gun"; parts made by separate trade groups and assembled together.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looks like a modern trade gun.
    Barrel doesn't appear to be Damascus or twist.
    Soldering and inletting not of best quality.
    If the inside isn't too bad, I'd have new nipples installed and shoot it.
    I had a 70 cal Jaeger flint with the same rifling pattern that shot very well with thick patches of denim and best with patches cut from thin ladies leather gloves.
    Patches were lubed.
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  • navc130navc130 Member Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I misspoke when I said "trade gun." The proper term is a "Guild gun," the Guild being an association of different trades. It looks like an antique to me - period 1850 to 1880. You don't get engraving like that on modern reproductions, or the silver or gold bands on the barrels.
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  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932 ✭
    edited November -1
    I believe that someone has tried to put a stock on it.
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  • rhmc24rhmc24 Member Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Has anyone noticed that the throw of the hammers is too long? That they probably ruined the nipples? That maybe the hammers are replacements? Otherwise it looks like a quality piece I would want after I modified the hammers.
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