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walther ppk/s

haredawgharedawg Member Posts: 54 ✭✭
edited May 2010 in Ask the Experts
does anyone have any experience with the walther PPK series of pistols. i am considering bying a slightly used SS PPK in 380 auto as a CCW.

it is 390 and change at a local shop. and appears to have been rarely fired or quite well taken care of. (was told it was braught in by an older gentalman)

is 390$ a good price? and is this a good pistole for CCW.

any general experience would help as well (accuracy, reliability etc.)

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  • haredawgharedawg Member Posts: 54 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm very irritated about this gun.I bought one at Gander Mtn. on Oct. 23rd. I went to the range the next day and found out it didn't work. The sales guy at the range told me there had been a national re-call in Jan. for this gun. I went back to GM and they gave me a full refund. Then I went back to the range and discovered they had one in stock, so of course I bought it. I must be the dumbest noob ever. Any way I started shooting it right away and it quickly became apparent that this gun was not functioning properly. It just wouldn't load a round in the chamber. So the gunsmith (?) took in in the back after doing something, gave it back to me and said "you just need to put a few rounds through it". (I've discovered that this phrase is used every time the "EXPERT" you're talking to doesn't know what's going on.)
    I went back to the range again and the same problems showed up. After some back & forth activities with the gunsmith & the sales guy, they decided to send it back to S&W for "Warranty work" which is what he wrote on the job order.
    First of all there is no warranty so what the he-- is going on.
    During the process of breaking it in I put 500 rounds min through it and for accuracy I put Crimson Trace laser grips on it.
    I'm kind of a nut when it comes to keeping records of expenses and today I went through all receipts for items directly associated with this gun and the totalis $1,283.69. That includes the gun, ammo, laser grips. I couldnt find the receipt for my Galco holster and that was about $80.
    I wrote a letter to the President of S&W Firearms, James Debny. What do you guys think the chances are for a full refumd?

    I'm pretty upset because the guys in the gunshop are beginning to show their lack of knowledge and talent regarding guns. Doo any of you experience this type of attitude?

    Semper Fi
    Jack
  • haredawgharedawg Member Posts: 54 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello,
    2 items:
    1 - Just bought a SW ppk/s last week, and have had 2 misfires, where the primer was not sufficiently punched. Any ideas? The ammo was Winchester "Win-clean". The Rem ball ammo was flawless 50 rounds
    2 - How much are laser grips, and where could I find them???
    Thanks,
    G [:o)]

    YEAH BABY, YEAH!!!!
  • haredawgharedawg Member Posts: 54 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    the father in-law has a walther modell ppk/s cal 9mm kurz
    it's in the original hard case with papers and 2 mags very nice condition also has Interarms Alexandria/Viginia on it he's wondering how much it's worth and anything else you guys can tell him thanks
  • haredawgharedawg Member Posts: 54 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought what looks like a new / never been fired Walther PPK/S as my new CCL gun. I took it to the range for the first time and was supprised by how many failure to feed rounds I got...about evry 4th or 5th. After 30 rounds I got frustrated and quit. I tried 3 different kinds of ammo with the same result. The "expert" at the range told me that it's common and just needs a break in period of 500 to 600 rounds. Anyone have a thought on this? Thanks.
  • haredawgharedawg Member Posts: 54 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Okay, I know this is obvious to many of you guys, but why does the Walther PPK/S .380 have 9mm stamped on the barrel also?

    PPKS_380_lrg.jpg
  • rsnyder55rsnyder55 Member Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Created by matching a PP frame and PPK slide, it was developed to circumvent the gun import restrictions that made the PPK unimportable. It was produced in 22LR, 32ACP, and 9mm kurz (380ACP). The primary importer was Interarms of Virginia.

    Should have come with 2 magazines, one with a finger rest, a manual, a test target, and a cleaning rod.

    Values can be best determined by checking out the completed auctions on the auction side.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It could have been made by Interarms, or imported by them from Germany.

    Photos would be best.

    Neal
  • haredawgharedawg Member Posts: 54 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    it also said made in Germany and I think it had Carl Walther on it
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,041 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • MaaloxMaalox Member Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is the range of the serial number? It could have been made by Ranger Manufacturing under license to Walther.

    In 1978, Ranger Manufacturing of Gadsden, Alabama was licensed to manufacture the PPK and PPK/S; this version was distributed by Interarms of Alexandria, Virginia. This license was eventually canceled. Starting in 2002, Smith & Wesson (S&W) began manufacturing the PPK and PPK/S under license. In February 2009, S&W issued a recall for PPKs it manufactured for a defect in the hammer block safety. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_PPK

    I have been trying to collect serial numbers and date of manufacture for the PPK and PPK/s since this information is not available. If you have the test target it may have a date of the test fire. Here is what I have on the PPK/s. If you have the date for yours I would like to add it to my list.


    Model Finish Caliber Serial Test Target Date
    PPK/S Blue .380 000895 1978
    PPK/S Blue .380 035118 1/28/1983

    PPK/S Stainless .380 S032586
    PPK/S Stainless .380 S044302
    PPK/S Stainless .380 S0860XX
    PPK/S Stainless .380 S101380 2/25/1993
    PPK/S Stainless .380 S1598xx 6/24/1999
    Regards, MAALOX
  • haredawgharedawg Member Posts: 54 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    here's the # 174969s also on the ejecting the # 73
    What's it tell you on this one
  • ripley16ripley16 Member Posts: 4,834
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by haredawg
    it also said made in Germany and I think it had Carl Walther on it


    It was made in France, assembled and finished in Gernmany, imported and sold by Interarms. Because of that the value may be a bit higher than the usual $500ish, provided the finish is in good condition. It is probably blued, and if so I'd put the value at $600. You may even get more from a desperate collector...I've seen them go as high as $800.
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