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MODEL 12 QUESTION

manwinchmanwinch Member Posts: 137 ✭✭✭
edited April 2012 in Ask the Experts
I have a Winchester model 12 that serial numbers match on the receiver and barrel. The barrel is stamped Super Speed and Super X 3 in. The receiver's action is the same size as a 2 3/4 inch model 12. Is that right for the barrel? The shotgun has ingraving on both sides of the receiver of a duck scene with heavy scrolling down the top sides of the receiver toward the barrel ending half way down the top of the barrel. The shotgun looks like it was reblued but just after it was engraved. I am going to Auction it off and I do not want to misrepresent it if it is not a 3 inch.
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    manwinchmanwinch Member Posts: 137 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Are the ejectors on the Model 12 interchangeable between gauges? I know the receivers are different sizes, but can I use a 12 ejector in a 16?What about 20 and 28? Thanks

    Thanks. The ejector is what I was asking about. So I can use my spare 16 on the 12ga,right?
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    manwinchmanwinch Member Posts: 137 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Having issues with a model 12 Y series. While shooting regulation trap, shells(all factory, no reloads) want to stick in the chamber. It seems like maybe the shells expand after they are fired and the chamber may be a little to tight?? Since these guns are a little different from the original 12's anything might be possible. Thoughts?
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    manwinchmanwinch Member Posts: 137 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Should a 1940 vintage model 12 with a donut post rib and a checkered forend have a checkered butt stock or not? Thanks

    Todd
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    manwinchmanwinch Member Posts: 137 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Isn't there a "gear" type of adjustment the allows "tightening" up the action? If so, wouldn't it be benificial to a buyer if the existing setting of this "gear" be reflected when selling the firearm?
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    manwinchmanwinch Member Posts: 137 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know nothing about the model 12. I'm trying to find out the value of the one i have, but there are so many that are different values. heres what i got. model 12 12 ga., nickel steel barrel,very good condition,it does have a poly choke not sure if its after market,ser. # 165428. any help on what the value is would be great. I've heard of some for 300 to 2500. thanks.


    steve
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    manwinchmanwinch Member Posts: 137 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Today I saw a 1912 winchester, 12 guage, with straight checked grip, and an old style round, checked foreend. As I examined the inside of the slide rail for the gauge, I noticed a "T" on the rail up a few inches from the 12 for gauge. Anyone have an idea what the "T" means?
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    manwinchmanwinch Member Posts: 137 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester Model 12 that was recently worked on and I'm having a problem with it. When you work the action, its really rough-not smooth at all. Also, when you "pump it" (down, then up-loading a round, although I'm testing it empty) the pump release is locked until you pull the trigger-not the way it was before. Before I disassemble it can someone tell me what to look for? By raising the loading gate I can see where the release hook locks in and can see it snap in place as the forend locks. At that point it is hard locked in place with no budging whatsoever. When I pull the trigger I can see the tension release from it and it can be pressed.

    I would really appreciate any advice/help on this. Really wanting to shoot this old girl!

    Shane
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    we_dig_itwe_dig_it Member Posts: 6,614 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    trap
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    CapnMidnightCapnMidnight Member Posts: 8,520 ✭
    edited November -1
    I don't think so, I have never seen a trap grade model 12 with a round foe end. Did it have a rib barrel?
    W.D.
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    kimikimi Member Posts: 44,723 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like a Tournament Trap Grade Gun that might date back to around the 1920s. I use to have one that was a real beauty with the round foreend and it, too, had the English (straight) grip stock. The T where you described it would be correct for that particular gun. They are very nice guns.
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    kimikimi Member Posts: 44,723 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CapnMidnight
    I don't think so, I have never seen a trap grade model 12 with a round foe end. Did it have a rib barrel?
    W.D.


    Most of the ones I've seen from the period I mentioned had the solid ribbed barrel, WD.
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    manwinchmanwinch Member Posts: 137 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes the 1912 had a solid rib 30" bbl. serial # 118,xxx. it is full choke. The foreend is definately the early style round checkered trap version. It does not have the trap indication marked on it anywhere.
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    kimikimi Member Posts: 44,723 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by manwinch
    Yes the 1912 had a solid rib 30" bbl. serial # 118,xxx. it is full choke. The foreend is definately the early style round checkered trap version. It does not have the trap indication marked on it anywhere.




    1915 mfg.

    The only marking that was on my two (12 and 20 gauge) trap guns was the letter T where you described it, and both were early guns with the solid rib. Madis discusses these guns in his book on the Winchester Model Twelve, and the 2012 BBGV shows values ranging from $1300 at 60% to $3250 at 100%, before any premiums are added.
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