S&W Sigma SW9VE

tsr1965

Last week I acquired a new S&W Sigma, as there were virtually no Glocks locally in 9MM. This is a device going to be used for pleasure shooting, carry, and most importantly for instruction of my step kids who want to learn to shoot. The trigger is horrendous, and I was wondering if there are any aftermarket connectors or kits to help with this, like there is with the Glocks?

EDIT:
I might be getting a Glock as well. I know they look alot alike when you take them apart, and so do some of the H&K's(I do believe that is why Glock sued them), but at least now there does not appear to be any parts interchangable upon a close look.

Wehrmacht_45

You picked a bad gun for after market parts. Only thing you can do is get some lighter striker springs from Wolff Gun springs fir it. However, they do not recommend this on carry or duty guns as it can make the gun ammo picky. They do smoothen up with use, so you can get a snap cap and dry fire the hell out of it. I have heard from some that some Glock parts interchange or can be fitted, but have never actually seen physical proof it can be done.


Honestly, you should have waited for a Glock.

Wolf.

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Wermacht_45 is right. Not meaning to rub your nose in it, but the Sigma is not a quality-made gun.

But you are not alone. People trust the S&W name and don't mind spending a little extra to get a quality, US-made gun. Unfortunately, S&W thumbed their nose at their existing customer base and potential customers simply to improve their bottom line by creating and selling this high-priced (for its real value), mediocre gun, inexpensively made of cheap material with little to offer in the way of workmanship and reliability.

Guns like this have a good, legitimate niche in the firearms market, but the Sigma is overpriced for that niche. You would be just as well off buying a Raven, a Sterling, or some other low-priced gun as to buy the Sigma. In fact, if you were to buy an inexpensive Makarov, which is a Russian and Eastern Bloc knockoff of the Walther PPK and the former Soviet Union and their allies' issue military sidearm, you would be buying a reliable workhorse of a gun.

Sell the Sigma and don't look back. Even if you pay double for a "good" gun, you'll be way ahead.

PLEASE NOTE: The foregoing is simply my opinion of the Sigma and my advice. I know there are others who feel differently about the Sigma and I don't have any argument with them. After all, opinions such as mine, and theirs, are like noses...... I suggest you listen to what everyone says, treat it all as a variety of experienced opinion, temper it with your own good sense and make your own decision.

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Well, I am not trying to take a shot at anyone who likes the Sigma and I'm not trying to change their opinion. However, I cannot in my mind logically justify putting maybe 600-800 rounds through a gun at a cost of perhaps $240 (WallyWorld white box Winchester @ $30 per hundred) just to make the pricey Sigma's trigger loosen up and perform the way it should perform right out of the box. An alternative to that, of course, is to have a trigger job (if one can be done on this gun) done to the new gun[xx(] for $50-$125 then shoot those 800 rounds comfortably.

stetson

I've had a 9mm sigma for 7 years.It was my first auto and I put many
rounds through it from wolf to winchester white box.This pistol has been very dependable with no problems and I would buy it again!Alot
of the bad knocks on Sigma came from folks who NEVER shot this pistol
once!It's true the pistol does have a bad trigger but with alot of shooting the trigger will smooth out.I own a raven and the sigma head shoulders above the saturday night specials you mention.I own
walthers and my sigma perform just as well so I'm wondering if we
have some one here who jumped on the bandwagon bashing brands who's
never shot one.That's a disservice to all gunowners if you are doing this.oh yeah, I own glocks too.

Wehrmacht_45

I have shot this pistol.......the trigger sucks. Plain and simple, there are better guns for the cash. Will it go bang every time? Yes, but can you hit the target is the question.

gsmyth64

Actually this really is a pretty good gun, and very simalar to the Glock except for the lousy trigger. I think it's a good gun and a pretty good value for the money. I get the pulls on these down to about 9.5 pounds and a heck of alot smoother pretty easily. I charge my customers fifty bucks for this and all of them have been happy with the results. Still not a great pull, but a heck of alot better. It's an easy job and I'm sure you could find a smith in your area to do the work.

grumpygy

Well just my 2 cents. I finally took mine to the range and yes the trigger sucks. But it did go bang every time and I hit what I aimed at. Not a well as my Kimber but you pay to get the better pistol.

After what I read on here I was kind of surprised at how it shot. do not like the way the slide fits kind of a big gap you can almost see thru the pistol.

Mk 19

I also do not care for the Sigma. The three that I have shot have been reliable, but very inaccurate (not to mention the 12 lb trigger pull). One day I shot 4 different 9mm handguns at the 10 yard line, the results were:
Glock 17: 2" group
Sig 226: 2" Group
FN FNP9: 2" Group
S&W Sigma: 6" Group
There was not a FTE or FTF out of any of the guns and the same lot of WWB was used for each gun. The diference in accuracy was not me, it was the gun. For another $50 you could buy a drasticly better FNP and have a gun that is a joy to shoot.

Emmett Dunham

Most of the time you will not be thirty feet away when you get in a gun fight, I see a lot of people who can't hit the target at thirty feet and when I move the target to ten feet they can keep the hits inside of a twelve inch target and thats all it takes to be able to defend your self. You don't have to shoot two inch groups to get the job done.


Emmett

moreammoplz

I had a Sigma and didn't shoot a box of shells through it I hated the trigger so bad. For just a bit more you can get a Smith M&P and it is tons nicer. Just keep the Sigma as a car gun, it isn't worth putting anymore money into.

There are so many better choices in firearms. Good luck.

wuchak

I must have gotten a good one. To me the trigger feels very much like the long DA trigger in a revolver. I put a snap cap in it and dry fired a bunch while playing at the computer. I do this this with most of my guns just to give my trigger finger some exercise. With the Sigma you only need to move the slide back about 1/2" to reset the striker so you don't need to keep ejecting the cap. After a couple of hundred pulls it felt much smoother and lighter. Maybe my finger just got stronger : )
For more trigger pull practice with my guns I sight on an object in the next room and concentrate on pulling the trigger without having the front site move. At first with the Sigma it was almost impossible to do this with out it twitching to the right. After a few hundred times, as the trigger got smoother, it stays right on target. I've been happy with the accuracy and after about 500 rounds it hasn't had any problems at all. It's not a Glock or M&P or XD but it's more comfortable in my hand than both the Glock and XD. I paid $274 (that's plus tax after rebate) for a new stainless high cap 9mm with 4 magazines. I think it's a screaming deal. I didn't really need a 9mm (I prefer revolvers) but at that price I thought I'd give it a try and I'm glad I did. I picked up a $22 Don Hume JIT slide holster made for the G19 and it fits the Sigma perfect. I've been carrying it off and on for a month or so and the more I carry it and shoot it the more I like it. I'm ordering a set of Mepro night sites for it this week.