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Vintage cartridge I.D.

cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,624 ✭✭✭✭
edited November 2013 in Ask the Experts
I've been going through things that I inherited a while back. I have a 10 round leather ammo holder that is secured by the users belt. I'm concerned about the ammo. It's marked R-P 30.06 SPRG. 5 cartridges appear to be sabots with white plastic serrated partial covers. All are copper hollow points with a lead core. A couple of the second five are my concern. The copper is cracked and the bullet has moved maybe .040" away from the brass. Also, when looking at the separation I see what looks like copper with very fine serrations. Any ideas what this is and is it safe to keep?
Thanks guys,
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  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    R-P, stands for Remington-Peters, so it is a remington cartridge case, in 30-06. From what you describe, these are the Remington Accelerator's, which were a 30 caliber sabot, around a 22 caliber, 55 grain Power-Lokt Hollow point. They were said to run near to 4000 FPS.

    Not sure what the second five are about, but it sounds like someone fiddled with them.

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  • CheechakoCheechako Member Posts: 563 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As tsr1965 said, the first five are Remington .22 Accelerator cartridges ca. 1970s and 1980s. They were also made in 30-30 and 308W. The idea never really caught on.

    From your description, it is really hard to visualize the other five. You need to give a better description or, even better, a photo or two. Could they be Accelerators where a part of the sabot has broken off? Just a SWAG.
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  • charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://www.ammo-one.com/RemingtonAccelators.html

    If they are HP's they could reloads. The other sound questionable. Personally 10 rounds of mystery isn't worth the risk.
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,624 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the info guys. After a closer look I have 5 Remington Accelerators and 5 Remington 30.06 cartridges. They are in a Triple K model #105 A cartridge holder that is in great shape. It looks like this stuff is about 45 years old. I will put it on the auction side. Any idea what it is worth?
    Thanks again guys,
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    With luck, and a desprate buyer, you might get $1 ea for the sabot rounds, and $.5 for the regulars.
    At a cartridge show, you'll find both to be rather common, most often in the "5 for a buck" bins (full Garand clips of AP and API ammo are in the "$2ea / 12/$20" bin).
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  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Please note that shipping a single round of live ammo (or5) will run about $11. These cannot be mailed in US Mail.

    The 30-06 Accelerator had a claimed velocity of around 4,500 fps, and laid claim to the "Fastest Factory Load in the World" spot. The .308 Winchesters claimed about 4100 fps. Still have 4 boxes of those.
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,624 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well if that is all they are worth I'll just give them away to local ammo collector pals. I'll put the Triple K leather on here as a give away.
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  • CheechakoCheechako Member Posts: 563 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    10 rounds of fairly common ammo is not like winning the lottery. It is gun show type stuff.

    I'd still like to see a photo of "The copper is cracked and the bullet has moved maybe .040" away from the brass."
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,624 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Posted give-away on the Gen. Discussion forum
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The chemicals used to tan leather are highly acidic, & will eventually damage cartridges left in contact with it. I suspect that all your cartridges are now worthless.

    The proof is in the photos.

    Neal
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