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38 s&w bullets

peddlerpeddler Member Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭
edited November 2013 in Ask the Experts
A friend gave me a old box of S & W shells in the white box. Box is stamped 38swp over 38 SMITH WESSON 148 GR LEAD, I was wondering if these were +P?

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  • Hawk CarseHawk Carse Member Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't think there is such a thing as .38 S&W +P unless you count the load Buffalo Bore recently brought out.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    But, to be sure, remove one bullet from the box & tell us how the headstamp on the case is marked.

    Neal

    EDIT: r-s, that is what I suspected. But, if so, the OP's box would be marked ".38 SPEC", which he didn't indicate. I figured that the information he gave was either incomplete or inaccurate, which may have resulted in our giving him an incomplete or inaccurate response.
  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If it's a 148 grain lead bullet, it's likely a wadcutter target load.

    The stuff in the white boxes were provided to military shooters, also at the Camp Perry, "Bullseye" matches.

    Below is a photo of similar ammo still available commercially. The wadcutter bullet is loaded to be flush with the case mouth. This is required so that it will function through the S & W Model 52 target pistol.




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  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,038 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • CheechakoCheechako Member Posts: 563 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:. . .The wadcutter bullet is loaded to be flush with the case mouth. This is required so that it will function through the S & W Model 52 target pistol.. . .

    I think it's the other way around. The flush-seated wadcutter load is a very old design. Very accurate and used for years by NRA Pistol shooters. The S&W M52 was designed around the cartridge.

    Ray
  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Cheechako
    quote:. . .The wadcutter bullet is loaded to be flush with the case mouth. This is required so that it will function through the S & W Model 52 target pistol.. . .

    I think it's the other way around. The flush-seated wadcutter load is a very old design. Very accurate and used for years by NRA Pistol shooters. The S&W M52 was designed around the cartridge.

    Ray



    When I first started shooting. Using .38 Wadcutters out of revolvers, this is what the ammo looked like. It was only later when the 52 was almost universally adopted by Bullseye shooters. That the flush loaded bullet became the defacto standard, as it could be used in both revolvers and the 52 without any problem(s).





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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hard to find now The model 52 S&W pistol cant have any lead sticking out of the case mouth will not chamber or fit in the magazine.
  • peddlerpeddler Member Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry I have taken so long to answer back about my 38 SW shells. They are lead round nose, with silver or nickel brass.





    Sorry I have taken so long to answer back about my 38 SW shells. Box is marked 148 gr lead. They are not wad cutter bullets. Box is marked 38 SWP and under that is 38 SMITH WESSON 148gr LEAD. I do not thank they are +p but just wanted to make sure. Thanks
  • CheechakoCheechako Member Posts: 563 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    peddler

    Sounds like plain vanilla 38 S&W ammo. The "white box" stuff was usually generic ammunition, often overruns from contracts.

    rufe-snow

    You must have been one of those NRA Pistol shooters from the other side of the railroad tracks. Me and my buddies shot revolvers and only dreamt about getting a M52, someday, maybe. [;)][;)]

    Ray
  • 5mmgunguy5mmgunguy Member Posts: 3,092 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It sounds like 38 S&W ammo. It will probably not chamber in your 38 Special.
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