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Winchester model 1892

isutoadisutoad Member Posts: 156 ✭✭
edited December 2013 in Ask the Experts
On the Winchester model 1892 was the wood finished in varnish or oil or both. Thank You
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  • isutoadisutoad Member Posts: 156 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    In front of my trigger guard are the letters, U S C Co. and under that is 9-13-93 # 218. Can anyone help me with the letters and numbers? Number on Winchester is 14355.
    Thanks very much.
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  • isutoadisutoad Member Posts: 156 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is the value and age of a Winchester model 1892 (.44-40) serial #708966
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  • isutoadisutoad Member Posts: 156 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looking at a model 1892 in a 25/20. It is a take down model. Is it worth more because of the take down and a guess how much if every thing else is equal thanks.
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  • isutoadisutoad Member Posts: 156 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have a Winchester model 1892 in a 25/20 cal. I have been told that the barrel has been cut off. What are my options. Should try to find a different barrel or leave it as is. Cabelas has said not worth much.
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  • charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Does it shoot good? How good is the rest of the rifle? Repo barrels might be around or a take off that could be relined. Personally the 25-20 isn't much of cartridge, but if you load for it with cast bullets it can be very cheap shooting.
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  • kumatekumate Member Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    who told you? what is the length of the barrel now?
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  • 62fuelie62fuelie Member Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If the barrel has been cut then the magazine tube has probably been cut too. I have had good luck getting old Winchester parts from Buckingham's in Tennessee - 731-559-4169. Have somebody who is not looking at buying low to resell look at it for a more objective evaluation. If you give Bert H. the full serial number he may be able to give you a surprising amount of information.
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  • isutoadisutoad Member Posts: 156 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It has a 18 inch barrell. Wood is good, shoots good. It is in good shape. Think it was made in1917. The magazine is about1/4 inch short of the barrell. It has a ladder sight in the back.
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  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    isutoad,

    If memory serves me right, the STANDARD barrel length for a sporting rifle was 24-26 inches, and the carbine was 20-22. Bert H., will be along, and solidify that.

    However, if the barrel is octagon on your 1892, then it has been cut, as they never made an octagon carbine. There is always the notion, that it could be a special order, and the only way to tell that is to get a factory letter for it from the Cody museum. It will tell you exactly the way it left the factory.

    As far as Cabela's are concerned, I'm not going to say they are stupid, but they are in business to make money. The less they would have to pay you(and that is what they are trying to do, is get your gun from you), the more they can make on it. If you are able to post some photographs on here, that are well lit, in clear focus, and close up of the proof marks, barrel markings, the whole rifle, and tang markings, then we can give you a good idea as to value, and what you have. A serial number, can tell us when EXACTLY it was made. Don't rely on the Blue Book for that, as it is seriously flawed for data, and can be up to 5 years off.

    Best

    EDIT 1

    quote:It has a 18 inch barrel. Wood is good, shoots good. It is in good shape. Think it was made in1917. The magazine is about1/4 inch short of the barrel. It has a ladder sight in the back.



    If it is a round barrel, then what you have is a SRC...Saddle Ring Carbine. It could be missing the ring, but it sounds to be mostly all original.

    Best
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  • Mod1892Mod1892 Member Posts: 120 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello isutoad,

    I own 30 Model 1892's and am conducting a survey of the rifle and have more than 5500 rifles catalogued. The standard length barrel, in either round or octagon, on the sporting rifle configuration was 24 inches for the Model 1892. There were many thousands made with factory original barrels shorter than that. All the way down to 12 inches. One very good hint is the length of the exposed wood on the fore end. What is it on your rifle? Measure from the receiver face to the rear edge of the metal fore end cap. If you will email me some photos of the rifle and the stamped writing on the gun I will be glad to help you.

    Factory letters are only available for the first 379,999 Model 1892's manufactured. That takes you up to 1907 rifles.

    With regard to Cabela's and the 'expertise' I would say "not so much". I recently bought/stole a rifle from them that they said had a cut down half round /half octagon barrel. It was a 20 inch barrel gun. It is 100% original. The guy I spoke to said it had to cut down because the octagon and round portions were not the same length so it couldn't be half and half. I tried not to snicker as I told him to box it up and send it to my house!!!

    You might also be interested in looking at my post at the top of the page in the Sticky portion that had info on my survey. http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=606355

    Looking forward to hearing back and helping
    Michael

    Model 1892 / 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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  • walliewallie Member Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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